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The Lost Tune is Found! And H2 Zoom Woes . . .

Posted by bj on Thursday, February 26, 2009

As I was waking up this morning, before my eyes even opened, there was a tune running through my head . . . and it was The Lost Tune! So I jumped out of bed, stumbled into the living room half awake and picked up the fiddle. Yup, that's the one!

Set up the H2 Zoom to record it . .  and it says there's no card in it. I open it up and the card is there. Ummm . . . that's not right. Put in another SD card. It says there's no card in it. Try three other SD cards. None of them work. This is not good. I think I'm holding in my hand a $157 brick. ** sigh **

I do have a crappy regular 'puter microphone, and recorded it into that. This isn't high quality since the equipment kinda sucks, and also because I haven't really practiced the tune, not to mention that this was done BC (before coffee), so I didn't upload it onto the FHO server. I've got it here so maybe one of you can tell me what it is. It's played very bare bones, and a bit sloppily, but there are no major oopses, and you should be able to clearly hear the tune (or the tune the way I remember it, anyway.)

If you know the name, please tell me so I can add it to my playlist. Thanks!



28 comments on “The Lost Tune is Found! And H2 Zoom Woes . . .”

carlb Says:
Thursday, February 26, 2009 @7:26:20 AM

"Rock the Cradle Joe" in the key of D
Carl

bj Says:
Thursday, February 26, 2009 @7:34:35 AM

Thanks, Carl!

bj Says:
Thursday, February 26, 2009 @7:46:39 AM

Hmm. Just listened to it on the playlist and Chickenman and bsed are playing it in G. Is that the usual key for this tune? Since I plucked it outta my subconscious, I may have put it in the wrong key. And the fingers are the same, just moved over a string.

fiddlepogo Says:
Thursday, February 26, 2009 @11:49:15 AM

Yeah, I think Carl's right.
I've mostly heard it in D, but it would be easy to drop it a string and play it in G if that's where it sings more easily (there are words)

Feodosia Says:
Thursday, February 26, 2009 @12:18:40 PM

I hope your H2 Zoom is ok ... I just recommended to a friend to check them out , after they asked me about recorders ... those units sure look cool .

OTJunky Says:
Thursday, February 26, 2009 @1:42:36 PM

"Rock the Cradle Joe" doesn't sound anything at all like "Seneca Square Dance"... :-)

--OTJ

bj Says:
Thursday, February 26, 2009 @1:53:34 PM

There's a finger thing in the b part that is the same. Approximately 4 or 5 notes. :-)

Re the h2 zoom, I'm contacting support, but I'm not holding my breath. CS for any sort of electronics these days is a joke. And the company is in Australia. My next recorder will NOT be a Samson.

SMDTMTL Says:
Thursday, February 26, 2009 @3:25:08 PM

I had a Zoom for a couple of months...After I saw the product my friend purchased instead, I soon traded in my Zoom on the Tascam DR-1.... To me the zoom was a pain in the butt with it's incredibly small display, and non-intuitive controls... The DR-1 has a comparatively huge display... works elegantly... I have rarely in my life been so happy with a product as with this DR-1.

Steve

bj Says:
Thursday, February 26, 2009 @4:32:59 PM

Well, if this Zoom doesn't get fixed in time for festival season, I hope the budget can stand a DR-1 purchase!

fishinmusician Says:
Thursday, February 26, 2009 @7:39:15 PM

Gotta agree 100% with Steve about the Tascam DR-1. I've had mine about a year, and its great.

Dave

bj Says:
Thursday, February 26, 2009 @7:44:09 PM

If something goes south on the Tascam, where is CS? In the US or otherwise?

fiddlepogo Says:
Thursday, February 26, 2009 @9:28:54 PM

Jane Rothfield has a good version on her CD that's on CDbaby, IIRC.
There is also a version on ezfolk.com... maybe just on banjo.
The version I play I learned off of hetzlersfakebook.com and is considerably more complex.

FiddleJammer Says:
Thursday, February 26, 2009 @10:24:34 PM

You sure the SD card is formatted? I don't have a manual handy, but I think the "no card" message is explained in the manual.

bj Says:
Friday, February 27, 2009 @4:46:25 AM

Yes. It is definitely formatted. I will look in the manual, but . . . 8 gig card only works in that unit, and that's the card I've been using in there right along. And the other card I tried was the original 512 mb card that came with the unit.

bj Says:
Friday, February 27, 2009 @5:54:10 AM

According to the book, if you put in a card that isn't formatted, it should ask you if you want to format the card. I don't get that. I get a "no card" message. I just tried this with a card that had never been formatted for the zoom. It's officially toast.

scrubber Says:
Friday, February 27, 2009 @11:38:59 AM

I just ot a H2 Zoom and it seems to be working O.K. -- perhaps you got a 'dud' BJ?

dave

bj Says:
Friday, February 27, 2009 @11:41:32 AM

It was working fine for the last seven or eight months. Now it doesn't.

FiddleJammer Says:
Friday, February 27, 2009 @3:14:39 PM

Has the SD card been near a magnetic source? In the sun? Locked? Inserted upsidedown. Not inserted until it clicks? Formatted according to the instructions up until the last step before you got distracted and thought you were done? Just trying to cover all the bases. :-) Try the same card in someone else's Zoom? Good luck.

bj Says:
Friday, February 27, 2009 @3:32:01 PM

It works in the usb card reader. And you can't format the card if it doesn't recognize it's there. I actually erased the formatting on the 8 gig card, hoping it would recognize that it wasn't formatted. I did that after making sure everything was off of it, and the card reader had no problem recognizing it or any of the other cards. Believe me, I've done everything. Now I'm waiting a day or two to cool off before I give a CS person an earful.

Midwest_Fiddler Says:
Friday, February 27, 2009 @8:18:54 PM

Rock the Cradle Joe- that is a dandy dance tune. We used to play it alot for dances in Chicago. I recorded a version of it for CHR Vol. 6 (in process at this time). I do it in G on my Gibson fiddle tuned GDAD. I added the octave fiddle and two finger on the Deering banjo too. And, as you can imagine from me, lots of bow rocking. :-)

bj Says:
Friday, February 27, 2009 @8:38:05 PM

oohhhh, I haven't played anything in GDAD yet . . .

I've been adding just a bit of bowrocking to all the tunes I know well. It's coming along, though I'm still slow at it. My wrist keeps stiffening when I try to get fast with it. I'll overcome that, but the couple times I've done so, I almost lost the dang bow. :-) There's gotta be a happy medium.

Did you say octave fiddle? I really would love to try out one of those, but the fiddles around here already seem to be reproducing like bunnies . . .

bsed Says:
Friday, February 27, 2009 @9:24:22 PM

Beggin' your pardon, ma'am, but I've always played that tune in D.-----I have an H2 Zoom that I've been using now for, ohhh, about a year & a half. Haven't had any card problems with it. So far. I gotta think it's just a case of one of those times when your perfectly good equipment just decides to take a day off. And ain't it always the case that it always happens when you most urgently need to use it!

Fiddlepiper Says:
Friday, February 27, 2009 @9:30:15 PM

I play Rock the Cradle Joe in D Maj.. It's a great Old time tune, first heard Bruce Molsky play it. It can be a vocal with fiddle, and clawhammer banjo tune.

bj Says:
Saturday, February 28, 2009 @5:11:16 AM

Bruce, I think I got dyslexic with those keys. My initial playing of that tune was in G and yours and ChickenMan's was in D, though ChickenMan plays it out of A tuning, and does the high/low thing.

ChickenMan Says:
Saturday, February 28, 2009 @2:59:44 PM

I play it in D out of a hybrid D tuning ADAE and do the high/low thing.

bj Says:
Saturday, February 28, 2009 @3:07:36 PM

Well, I thought you were in AEAE, and discovered it actually works there too. :-)

And I really give up getting these keys and tunings straight!

fishinmusician Says:
Saturday, February 28, 2009 @6:04:59 PM

bj,

You asked about customer support for theTascam DR-1. Just dug out my manual, and it gives a Montebello, CA address and phone no. for customer service. However , I know it's made by TEAC Corp., a Japanese firm.

Dave

bj Says:
Saturday, February 28, 2009 @6:11:04 PM

Thanks, Dave.

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