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Another TuneList Update

Posted by bj on Thursday, November 27, 2008

Key of A Modal(AEAE)

Red Haired Boy
Elzik's Farewell
Pretty Little Dog
Remember What You Told Me
Cold Frosty Morning
Reap What You Sow


Key of A (AEAE)

SourWood Mountain
Cripple Creek *
Buffalo Gals


Key of G (GDAE)

Fly Around My Pretty Little Miss (Susannah Gal)
The Rosebud of Allendale
Bilem Cabbage Down
Seneca Square Dance
Golden Slippers
Flop Eared Mule *


Key of D (ADAE)

Over the Waterfall
Damon's Winder
Snake River Reel
Oh Susannah
Old Joe Clark
Mississippi Sawyer
Angeline the Baker
Arkansas Traveller
Cumberland Gap
Sally Ann *
Soldier's Joy
Shove the pig's foot a little farther in the fire
Liza Jane *
St. Anne's Reel *
Haste to the Wedding *


* in progress, still a little rough

Funny how much it helps to make a list like this. It makes me realize which keys I like to play in. Obviously G isn't very high in priorities, and C and F haven't made it yet, though I do find myself playing in F at the BG Jam somehow (a lot.)

Two of the G tunes were learned very recently, as were a couple of the D tunes. If I let myself I'd play nothing but A modals, but my jam circles probably wouldn't be hip to that. I still find myself gravitating to those though. I need to find some straight A tunes to learn. Probably Sally Goodin and Cotton Eyed Joe, maybe Kitchen Girl, but that's another Modal.

The only reason the D and G lists are fattening is because the Druckenmillers play a lot of tunes in those keys and I'm trying to tighten up those tunes so I can play better at the jam. Someday. Maybe this Tuesday. And Dee (fiddlecat) will be coming this time, YAY!

8 comments on “Another TuneList Update”

bsed Says:
Friday, November 28, 2008 @5:26:10 AM

I'm interested in the tune Damon's Winder. Where's it from? I learned a John Salyer tune called Kentucky Winder (in G). I wasn't sure what the term "Winder" referred to. Chirps told me he thinks it might refer to a type of dance. He-he. I'm not sure you could dance to KY Winder, though, because it's crooked as hell!

bj Says:
Friday, November 28, 2008 @5:52:10 AM

I snagged that one off Terri's Black Creek Jam recordings here:

Other than bilem cabbage down, it's the only tune I play that uses nashville shuffle. Or at least that I use nashville shuffle on, is probably more to the point.

Winder was also short for a sidewinder, which was a slang for a snake, or for a person who acted like one. But then there are also some mechanical things that get wound up too, even early cars at one point kinda.

Tennessee Tom Says:
Friday, November 28, 2008 @6:47:32 AM

Hey, I see you're working on "Haste To the Wedding"! That's cool. I'd like to hear it when you've had enough time to work with it. Although you are tuning ADAE, do you ever really use the fat string?

BTW, I compared our Humidity levels:
Easton, PA= 82%
Greensboro, NC= 56%

By that measure, I should be having serious rosin woes!


FiddleFish Says:
Friday, November 28, 2008 @7:12:53 AM

That's a nice tune list you've got there. You'd have no problem leading a jam if'n the opportunity to organize one came up.

The open modal sound with its archaic-ness and haunting overtones often seems to be at its best in solo and small, tight group settings. Especially the crooked tunes. These can be jam busters for us on nights when the group get a little bigger.

As you continue exploring F and C (and Bb), you may come to relish that distinct high-strung energy that the "closed" sound these keys offers.. Some really hopping dance tunes are in these keys.

bj Says:
Friday, November 28, 2008 @7:21:59 AM

Re humidity-- Yeah, but that's OUTSIDE. I live in a leaky old house with a steam heat system, where the term "heat regulation" (not to mention humidity regulation!) is an oxymoron. The heat varies 10-12 degrees from right before the thermostat bottoms out to five minutes after the heat kicks on. There is a cardigan sweater in every room, which is my form of heat regulation- put it on, take it off. All damn day.

Re the fat string on Haste to the Wedding. I'm just starting work on that since I played it through within two minutes of hearing it after you brought it to my attention. I'm at this point just playing the melody, which doesn't go onto the "fat string". Maybe when I add in the double stops I'll find the need to switch to std tuning, but not so far. It's different playing three beats (or is that six? never saw the song written out) per measure instead of four. And I always get distracted by another A modal.

Last night after writing this I ended up starting work on and playing Kitchen Girl into the wee hours. I expected it to be hard. It isn't, at least not the way I'm hearing it. It's coming together nicely.

bj Says:
Friday, November 28, 2008 @7:27:13 AM

FiddleFish, I have yet to get my head around crooked tunes. It seems, at this point in my education, to be the one straw that will break this camel's back. I keep listening to them though, and I expect that eventually they'll just click. There is one my local OT circle plays, but I always end up flubbing that odd measure.

Re leading jams, there's ONE issue with that. The minute I get in a jam situation and someone asks me for a tune, ALL KNOWLEDGE FALLS OUTTA THE HOLE IN MY HEAD. And the second I walk out the door to leave the jam it all pops back in. This is a well documented phenomenon, and has been discussed extensively on the forum, and I'm happy to note I'm not the only fool it happens to.

FiddleJammer Says:
Friday, November 28, 2008 @11:59:03 AM

The Damon's Winder on my festival recording site is related to Marmaduke's Hornpipe. See the write-up in the back of the first Portland Collection. They quote Kerry Blech as saying that a 'winder' is a kind of dance set in Kentucky where the figure winds.

On the crooked tune theme... In my experience, first 2 part tunes got more easily recognizable. Then, 3 part tunes. Then, 2 or 3 part tunes that might have irregular parts, eg, 2 similar but different A parts. Then, one day when someone plays a bona fide crooked tune, you'll have the amazing crystal clear understanding that a) it's crooked and b) you know how and where it's crooked. Ta Da! But, first you have to suffer your way through many a crooked tune, with your little inner fiddler devil jumping up and down on your left shoulder sneering at you because you don't know what the heck is going on. :-)

BJ... Some nicely accessible G tunes... Sail Away Ladies, Greasy String, Elk River Blues, Jeff City, Old Mother Flanagan, Rats Gone to Rest, Seneca Square Dance, Shoes and Stockings, and Chattanooga. I did a podcast on Chattanooga. It's linked off my blog.

Enjoy, have fun, and play nice y'all.

bj Says:
Friday, November 28, 2008 @12:12:04 PM

LOL! Well, I'm up to the "similar but different A (or B, actually!) parts" with at least one tune. I've meant to go back and learn the third part for Cumberland Gap but the local jam only plays the two part version so I never got around to it. I do recognize crooked tunes immediately, and can even recognize WHY they're crooked, but playing the little crooked bit where it needs to go is the step that seems to be eluding me.

Thanks for the steer on G tunes!

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