NCnotes as far as I’m concerned tin whistle, flute and pipes counts for one instrument. They are exactly the same fingering. And of these the most difficult for me to play well is the whistle.

MartyJoe, that’s interesting! :-) The pipes have a reputation of being hard (The reed maintenance? complex parts?) …but yea, I think playing whistle well is incredibly hard!

JonD, yea I know what you mean about chords. I seem to never agree with what’s printed in the tunebooks, sometimes drastically - like I’ll want a minor chord where they printed a major…that must be the modal nature coming out…Anyway it gives me something to do with music friends who can only play simple tunes slowly. Cuz that’s all I can do on guitar :-)
Cool that you are playing some OT tunes!

Tunes I seem to be obsessed with lately are:
Shove that Pigs Foot a Little Further in the Fire
Roscoe

Tunes I really WANT to devote more time to learning:
Burt County Breakdown
Blackberry One Step
Dance Around Molly

I'm bringing a bass to the tues. Jam so I made a bunch of loops in different keys to practice.
Deep Elum
Crawdad hole
Little Georgia Rose

Will the Circle be Unbroken 

'Goner' as played by Paul Kirk ( from Art Bennett) ... I got the notes and a bit of the rhytm , first phase is always trying to repeat the parts I can decypher.

I wish that one recording I can find online lasted five minutes.
I feel strongly attracted to this tune and the way it is brought.

I cannot find any other versions....

Ooo that's a nice one Anja!
So weird, I thought he was droning on A...but it's a G# matched to my fiddle...he must have his fiddle tuned down a bit? I can't imagine anybody tuning to G# or droning on G#.

Over here, it's an o'Carolan cramjam, prepping for o'Carolan session later this week.

I like O’Carolan’s music and play one of his easier pieces, called Blind Mary. I learned it by ear from a Youtuber with particularly bad intonation.

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'Goner' as played by Paul Kirk ( from Art Bennett) ... I got the notes and a bit of the rhytm , first phase is always trying to repeat the parts I can decypher.

I wish that one recording I can find online lasted five minutes.
I feel strongly attracted to this tune and the way it is brought.

I cannot find any other versions....

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It is a nice tune. He's playing the version found in Marion Thede's famous (and quite good), fiddle book - of which I happen to have a copy. As you've very likely figured out, it's in cross A tuning, perhaps down a bit as NCnotes says. There's lots of really good cross-tuned tunes in the book. Check out - Green Back Dollar, Black Jack Davy,  Little Girl with Her Hair All Down, Sweet Child, Chicken Pie, to name a few. I think Mr. Kirk recorded many of them.

I’ve taken a fresh look at this book (Thede), since posting about it yesterday. The book contains some interesting transcriptions of tunes. It also uses language and expresses certain sentiments that belong to a past era. With that in mind, I wouldn’t recommend it afterall.

Polishing on a Stuart Brothers version of "Sugar Tree Stomp" - love their version.

This tune is attributed to Authur Smith, also recorded by Paul Warren, Michael Cleveland, Kenny Baker, as well as many other old time fiddlers as well. Query Slippery-Hill.  

BUT - there is a story told by Red Wilson - that his grandfather (Waites Ledford - well known local fiddler in his day) was the one who actually wrote the melody and taught it to Authur Smith. Is that true? According to some - yes. i haven't followed up on that yet. but...

Interesting side note - it is said that the Stuart Brothers recording is "closer to the original version" than any of the others. OK. 

Don't care if it's true or not - it is my favorite,   

They were so good!

Listen to the Music(Doobie Bros.) Banjer
Mr. Tamborine Man (Dylan) Banjer
Together Again (Buck Owens) guitar
Gentle on My Mind (Hartford) guitar

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Listen to the Music(Doobie Bros.) Banjer
Mr. Tamborine Man (Dylan) Banjer
Together Again (Buck Owens) guitar
Gentle on My Mind (Hartford) guitar

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OOH Gentle on my Mind....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzWoagZ53_Q

Tim finally lets Stu-God out of his cage at 2:52

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Listen to the Music(Doobie Bros.) Banjer
Mr. Tamborine Man (Dylan) Banjer
Together Again (Buck Owens) guitar
Gentle on My Mind (Hartford) guitar

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OOH Gentle on my Mind....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzWoagZ53_Q

Tim finally lets Stu-God out of his cage at 2:52

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Gentle on My Mind

This is my HD35NW in open G tuning. The tune is in C. (with no F) I learned this by watching Hartford's hands playing his banjer. He doesn't reach over or bar like I do. (my bad habits)

That entire DVD is Terrific! 

Wow farmerjones, that intro guitar part is so pretty, and seems hella hard!
Such a lovely song, enjoyed listening to you!!

Over here in Irishland, our fiddle class is doing "Farewell to Ireland". It has four parts, ack! I just finished learning two other 4-part reels plus "Kid on the Mountain" (5-part jig) so I'm like, OUT OF MEMORY.
I deserve some simple short A-B tunes after this, LOL.

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Wow farmerjones, that intro guitar part is so pretty, and seems hella hard!
Such a lovely song, enjoyed listening to you!!

Over here in Irishland, our fiddle class is doing "Farewell to Ireland". It has four parts, ack! I just finished learning two other 4-part reels plus "Kid on the Mountain" (5-part jig) so I'm like, OUT OF MEMORY.
I deserve some simple short A-B tunes after this, LOL.

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Hey there NCnotes, considering your experience with ITM, I wonder if you’ve spent any time exploring the Irish “airs and songs”, especially as found in O’Neill's. In my edition, there are 625! of them. I’ve poked around on YT and there doesn’t seem to be very many folks playing them. I've messed around with a few of them. Overall, they look interesting.

Love airs and songs! I have learned a few airs (with Gaelic names, argh, so hard to list them…the last one I played was the “Taimse” one). Every once in a while at session, somebody will play an air. :-)

I am not much of a singer, but a friend of our whistler who has a gorgeous voice did “Wild Mountain Thyme” last time. SHe works as a teacher but she is also a Semi-pro singer. ;-) I mostly pick up airs and songs from sessions (hearing what other people play/sing) so I’m not sure what’s in o’Neill’s! SUrprised that there are so many!

PS If you look up “sean nos” singing, you will hear some of the traditional beautiful airs sung in Gaelic… (they are probably sung more than played on instruments?)

I figured you must have learned a few. I have no idea how O’Neill’s is received by the Irish community but it’s nice to have so much material contained between two covers. The book has much (maybe all), of O’Carolan’s and lots of the usual dances as well.

That’s a good idea to seek out vocal renderings of the songs and airs. Those I’ve found played instrumentally, haven’t always been particularly satisfying. Tricky business to play simple melodies beautifully.

YEp To the ITM community in the USA, o’Neill’s is like a bible LOL! I need to buy myself a copy!

Yet what you’ll see more often is players looking up tunes on thesession.org…you could try putting the name of your air in there, and see what comes up…Sometimes people post links to very good recordings. BUt yea, I have been told to learn airs from the Singers…

NCnotes - And you call yourself an Irish musician!!
Back in my playing days we met Dan Michael Collins, a pillar of the Irish cultural and musical community in New York (co-founder of Shanachie records). In the 1960's he published a straight facsimile edition of O'Neill's, which reprtedly sold about 70,000 copies, and I bought one which I've had for 50 years now. In the intervening years several people have felt compelled to publish "edited" or "corrected" editions, which I would avoid. i don't know what the Mel Bay edition is like.
More recently I found a downloadable .pdf edition online, which I have on my tablet, along with "Dance Music of Ireland." Those, along with "Ryan's Mammoth Collection," Cecil Sharp's "English Folk Songs From the Southern Appalachians," Samuel Bayard's two books from Pennsylvania, and a few Scottish collections, are a handy source of tunes and songs. Inspired by the mention of airs in this thread, I just downloaded a copy of Joyce's "Old Irish Folk Music and Songs" from the Internet Archive, which is another classic, with lots of airs.
There's a lot available online if you look around a bit. If you're ambitious you can even download the Frank C. Brown Collection of North Carolina Folklore - all six volumes!

BTW - the history of "Wild Mountain Thyme" is a bit murky, but it seems to date to about 1950, and was brought over here and widely sung by Maggie Peirce. Kind of a folky/pop song IMHO.

Ooo a Tablet version of O’Neill’s sounds perfect! I will definitely get that.
You have such a great music library!!
( I think that I exist lazily in the orbit of senior musicians who send me sheet music and links to historic recordings…I never have to go look up tunes for myself :-D They do all the research! )

re Irish songs-
"She moves through the fair" is one I play secretly at home on guitar, and I'm working on "Fair & Tender Ladies", inspired by Eimear Arkins who is my new music crush: https://youtu.be/Z_BAcL2YGag?si=xtGvobzG9DFEe66d
(not sure "Fair & Tender Ladies" is Irish, but it has some kind of deep folk history.)

I've looked up both of those songs before, and "She Moved Through the Fair" is Irish or Scottish, but maybe not very old. "Fair and Tender Ladies" is apparently American/Appalachian. Both were first collected around 1900, but "The Fair" may have been written or assembled by one of the collectors.
Might add that in earlier days the popular poems of Thomas Moore and Robert Burns were either set to existing airs by the authors, or others, like "Believe Me if All These Endearing Young Charms" by Moore. I sometimes attempt that one on my violin.

PS - I just checked, and there are five versions of "Come All You Fair and Tender Ladies" in Sharp, collected in 1916 in Tennessee, North Carolina and Kentucky.

Funny how I fell in love with from Eimear Arkins’ singing (she’s from Ireland) and now finding that it’s an Appalachian/American tune…maybe even collected in this area! MUsic really gets around!!

PS "Endearing young charms' is very nice! listened to a couple versions so far while chopping veg.

For some reason today I enjoyed playing riffs from "I Feel Fine" by the Beatles on mandolin. Anybody else ever break away like that?