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rafa - Posted - 08/28/2009:  08:10:16


Hello to all, I play a lot of tunes going through sheet music trying to find something thatcatches my fancy then I do what I want to it. A lot of sheet music calls for cross tunings, for the heck of it I played a bunchof the tunes just using standard tuning. Well the tunes sounded just fine without cross tuning my fidle, hard to figure.

bj - Posted - 08/28/2009:  09:26:43


You can do them either way, but when playing crosstuned you'll get a fuller sound, especially when playing drones. This is MOST evident in a crosstuned jam circle. Can be heard when you're playing alone, but is not quite as noticeable.

There's one jam I go to that's a bluegrass jam where some OT players show up. We usually get one circle of OT going. I especially noticed the difference since I was playing a tune in std tuning earlier with a BG jam, then played it later in crosstuning with a couple other fiddlers.

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rafa - Posted - 08/28/2009:  10:17:50


Hey BJ thanks for the reply, clears that lil mystery up!

Dick Hauser - Posted - 08/28/2009:  16:09:50


I would think that the degree of difficulty would depend of which cross tunings you use. GDAE doesn't create much of a problem. Other tunings would be harder to play using notation. In addition, you won't be able to use as many drones without using a cross tuning. Cross improve sound by creating more sympathetic vibration by the strings.

I have taken standard notation, and changed the notation to compensate for any retuned strings. For example, lets say the tuning will be AEAE. I would have to change the notes for the G and D string. Basically, that is what skodatura does. It looks like standard notation, but notes for the retuned strings have been modified. So, when you play notes the these 2 strings (i.e. G/D) you won't be hearing the notes you see in the notation.

gulfguy

rafa - Posted - 08/28/2009:  17:47:38


Hey Dick thanks for the reply, sure appreciate it, I would be going through all kinds of notaton and everytime I saw a tune that was crooss tuned I would retune my fiddle. It really got me that I could still play the cross tuned tune in standard tuning and it would not sound totally off.

bj - Posted - 08/28/2009:  18:03:48


Um, rafa, why didn't you just pick up one of your crosstuned fiddles?

Folks who crosstune arrange their sets in blocks of tunes in the same key/tuning. Makes life easier.

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rafa - Posted - 08/28/2009:  18:29:54


Heck I could have but I just go through a lot of sheet music and being the lazy person I have been accused of being at times, I dont have to go and get it by the computer and I can stiil just stay where I am and get the jist of the tune. But if it catches my fancy I guess I would have to go get my coss tuner and really check it out

Dick Hauser - Posted - 08/29/2009:  07:48:26


I think that BJ is right. If you are going to use cross tunings (other than ADEA), you should have an extra fiddle. On a personal basis, I like my #1 fiddle to stay in standard GDAE tuning. Every fiddler needs 2 fiddles. That way, when you are having work done on one of the fiddles, you still having something to play. Fiddles are much more delicate that guitars or banjos. One listmember recommended having your fiddle set up right after each of the 2 major seasonal weather changes.

If you are serious about cross tuning, you should get Perfection tuners. Old time fiddlers probably thank the guy who invented them each time they pick up their fiddle.

gulfguy

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