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Not trying to break any rules by linking YouTubes...lol...which I still don't understand...anyhow...here's an interesting idea...I just ran across this messin' around on YouTube and thought of discussions on FHO between classical playing and other type playing...in this case she's saying BG, but could be anything...like Maiden's Prayer, etc. youtube.com/shorts/VzcYF2INBWk...wzu7X9rNm
Or...just in keeping with the tune in mind...Pachelbel's Canon in D, here's an idea this really brilliant guy came up with using his looping machine (someday I hope to get me one of those things!) and his kitty cat...
youtu.be/r7WI4A8N8dA?si=sPeuBGizf2vpueCO
...and it just makes me think of the many discussions where it boils down to "ownership" of the music...is it ok for a classical player to take possession of a folk tune, or is it ok for a folk musician to take possession of a classical tune? Is it ok for a northerner to take possession of a southerner tune, and the other way around. Take possession isn't a great way to say it; maybe "share" would be a better term. Is it ok to share you ideas on some old timer's tune from your own perspective...or for that matter, is it ok to be yourself, play your way, and enjoy doing that...or do we have to be persnickety about every little thing? Just thinkin'...I can still sorta do that...lol...although not much. Still trying to recover from hitting the wall hard...knowing if I could play music it would help me, but I can't at the moment. But I can still think about it sometimes. So whatcha'll think? Should music have ownership? I ain't talking about legalities, I.e. copyright or whatever...I mean just artistic license.
I think it was W.C. Handy who came up with 'Shoeboot's Serenade', which was a Bluesy/rag-timey version of 'Schubert's Serenade' ... (or was it Fats Waller and a stride/Boogie version?) ......
Well, by golly, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ858REJBKA&list=RDoJ858REJBKA&start_radio=1
Edited by - Old Scratch on 06/27/2026 14:40:35
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Originally posted by groundhogpeggyNot trying to break any rules by linking YouTubes...lol...which I still don't understand...anyhow...here's an interesting idea...I just ran across this messin' around on YouTube and thought of discussions on FHO between classical playing and other type playing...in this case she's saying BG, but could be anything...like Maiden's Prayer, etc. youtube.com/shorts/VzcYF2INBWk...wzu7X9rNm
Or...just in keeping with the tune in mind...Pachelbel's Canon in D, here's an idea this really brilliant guy came up with using his looping machine (someday I hope to get me one of those things!) and his kitty cat...
youtu.be/r7WI4A8N8dA?si=sPeuBGizf2vpueCO
...and it just makes me think of the many discussions where it boils down to "ownership" of the music...is it ok for a classical player to take possession of a folk tune, or is it ok for a folk musician to take possession of a classical tune? Is it ok for a northerner to take possession of a southerner tune, and the other way around. Take possession isn't a great way to say it; maybe "share" would be a better term. Is it ok to share you ideas on some old timer's tune from your own perspective...or for that matter, is it ok to be yourself, play your way, and enjoy doing that...or do we have to be persnickety about every little thing? Just thinkin'...I can still sorta do that...lol...although not much. Still trying to recover from hitting the wall hard...knowing if I could play music it would help me, but I can't at the moment. But I can still think about it sometimes. So whatcha'll think? Should music have ownership? I ain't talking about legalities, I.e. copyright or whatever...I mean just artistic license.
Every time I hear that tune I think of The Streets of London by Ralph Mac Tell.
I've heard a songwriter say, I had to write it or someone else would. This speaks of a common and universal conscienceness. This encapsulates telepathy, remote viewing and all sorts of woowoo, as they call it. Nobody owns anything. If anything, we are stewards of things while we are living.
Once upon a time I was into creating things, professionally. My name is on a few patents. But so is my bosses name who had nothing to do with coming up with 'the thing.' And I only came up with it because it just seemed obvious to me.
I don't/can't write songs because I'm attached to other people's songs, as if they were my own. When you play music, it's almost like stepping inside the creators mind. I play weekly with a guy that's wrote over 300 songs. It's interesting. Writers write because they must. I play because I must. I've told folks, if you don't want me singing harmony, say so in advance, because it's going to happen.
Take care of yourself GHP.
To me, it's just like reading the dots for a folk tune (OT, BG, TRAD, etc.)
There's no room to indicate ALL the expressions, inflections, ornaments, there's just dots; so we interpret them in our own way.
Whats holding us back from doing the same with Pachelbel's canon or any other classical piece. I often fiddle around with I, V, VIm, IIIm, IV, I, IV, V; making up my own random variations, one day I will stick with one.
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