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Jun 11, 2026 - 8:31:17 AM
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ws

USA

1 posts since 3/29/2012

Got this fiddle from a friend who got it from a dealer who said they originally got it from the Turtle Mountain Reservation in North Dakota. Hoping to return it to where it came from but it has no paperwork with it and no proof of origin. Wondering if anyone out there might have some info on it. It has beautiful coral and bead inlay and an amazing bear effigy headstock. The coral was a popular trading currency from out west throughout the 1800s and early 1900s which makes me think this is probably the time frame in which it was built, but could be even older.




 

Jun 11, 2026 - 10:47:24 AM
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2417 posts since 3/1/2020

That’s an interesting story and fiddle. The orientation of the bear is intriguing, as it faces the audience. Lots of ornamental scrolls face the player instead.

Unfortunately, I think you’ll have a hard time finding anything concrete about it without any direct documentation. If there’s a chance that it was carved on a reservation, you might ask to speak to a museum curator who has familiarity with carvings. The style of the bear might be an indicator, although it’s a bit of a long shot. It’s difficult to make a determination of the violin’s age. The ornaments may be original but may also be later additions. Almost everything looks to be handmade, so it’s not possible to narrow it down by looking at parts as clues (something that can be done occasionally with violins made from kits).

There were a great number of “rustic fiddles” made by people who didn’t have easy access to violins in more urban areas. If they’re undocumented, it’s typically impossible to identify a maker, as most of the makers didn’t make enough instruments to be known and added to the dictionaries of makers. Henley and Wenberg put a lot of effort into gathering information, but they couldn’t track every obscure maker down.

I’d check inside the violin for any signatures or markings.

Jun 11, 2026 - 1:03:04 PM

2054 posts since 7/30/2021

what a cool-looking fiddle!
It almost looks like it could be a five-string, but hard to tell from photo.
I wonder what it sounds like, but it seems like the kind of instrument that could wind up in a cultural exhibit.

Edited by - NCnotes on 06/11/2026 13:03:20

Jun 11, 2026 - 6:52:51 PM

Old Scratch

Canada

1495 posts since 6/22/2016

I poked around on the internet and couldn't come up with anything promising, so I contacted Anne Lederman, who I figured might have connections there. I'll send you her response privately, but she knows someone who might know someone .....

Jun 12, 2026 - 1:19:57 AM

martyjoe

Ireland

254 posts since 7/11/2024

If it has a Del Gesu label inside I’d be thinking that there is a good chance that it might be a fake. But I’ve been known to be wrong.

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