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Oct 17, 2024 - 6:15:38 AM

Erockin

USA

1314 posts since 9/3/2022

Cripple Creek...

Added a few more accuracy notes. These type of songs remind me how important the shuffle is. The melody is pretty straight forward...it's getting that shuffle in there is where I struggle. I love this version...and this was recorded 20 miles from where I live at a coffee shop. If I'm not mistaken, I think they won instrumental album of the decade for this one! Check out the whole album.

Oct 17, 2024 - 4:13:05 PM
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7233 posts since 9/26/2008

That there IS a great record by a couple of giants in the industry. I can't imagine seeing/hearing this in a coffee shop.

Edited by - ChickenMan on 10/17/2024 16:13:28

Oct 17, 2024 - 11:26:48 PM

Quincy

Belgium

1442 posts since 1/16/2021

quote:
Originally posted by wrench13

Quincy, IMHO, you could do a lot worse then trying to play along with the Highwoods on this and many other of their renditions of Old Time tunes. Aside from giving you a solid 2:50 min of the same tune (unlike the 'sets' of doing a tune 2X and moving on) and impeccable, rock-solid timing example of playing with drive, their rich twin fiddle sound is hard to beat for driving home the melodies. I done wore my LP's to paper-like thinness, back when I first started learning to play fiddle. Yaa, you can tell I was/am a huge fan; trying to emulate the best out there is a good way to get there!


I understand your point. I'm close to speeding up, so maybe soon at least for Hawks and Eagles I can try if I can play along with them, I really meant I was not ready for this yet !

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Today playing in the early morning... Feeling stressed because of work... Work is easy but people make it tough.  

Postponing the hour I have to leave. 

Anyway I still don't like my sound when I speed up or maybe it's just smartphone bad quality of sound. 


Oct 18, 2024 - 3:06:20 AM
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DougD

USA

12828 posts since 12/2/2007

Boys - That verson of "Cripple Creek" is based on the one recorded by Earl Scruggs and Paul Warren in 1961 for the album "Foggy Mountain Banjo."
youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK...re=shared
I remember when that album came out - banjo players all over the world strapped on our Mastertones, polished up our fingerpicks, and set to work. Tom Adams even teaches the intro and first break here, which is exactly what he played with Michael Cleveland:
youtu.be/uVMzawiNl24?feature=shared
Whose fiddling you prefer is a matter of taste, but if I wanted to learn "Cripple Creek" I'd stick with Paul Warren, who was a fine old time fiddler in additiin to being a Bluegrass pioneer.

Oct 18, 2024 - 1:44:29 PM
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1884 posts since 7/30/2021

I'm learning "The Full Rigged Ship" because my flute friend has been playing it at the last 3 sessions...obsessed with it and plays it gorgeously, so I caught the virus LOL! (Apparently I'm supposed to play "The New Rigged Ship" after it? Don't know that one. )

And I'm teaching a tune this Sunday!
"New Mown Meadow".
I can play it in my sleep, with all kinds of variations, but I'm really nervous about teaching it! I feel like it's going to be hard to stick to the bare basic bones and not confuse everybody...MUST. PLAY. IT. THE. SAME. WAY. EACH. TIME. (for teaching purposes)

Oct 18, 2024 - 2:50:09 PM
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4062 posts since 10/22/2007

I'm running a day behind.
Arkansas Traveler
Down in the Caribbean
Together Again (Buck Owens)
And one I call, Boom-Dadawoompa

Oct 18, 2024 - 5:19:09 PM
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1884 posts since 7/30/2021

Boom-Dadawoompa is a catchy name! :-D

Oct 18, 2024 - 8:48:53 PM
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JonD

USA

236 posts since 2/12/2021

Nice NC! To be pedantic, it’s “Da Full Rigged Ship” and “Da New Rigged Ship” cuz they’re Shetland tunes. (Or, it’s all da same if you’re from Chicago…)

Oct 19, 2024 - 8:14:19 AM
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4062 posts since 10/22/2007

quote:
Originally posted by NCnotes

Boom-Dadawoompa is a catchy name! :-D


Yes, thanks. But as you can well imagine, one can't make a fiddle make that sound.  It's more of a telecaster thru a Marshal stack type sound. smiley

Oct 19, 2024 - 9:06:35 AM
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1884 posts since 7/30/2021

quote:
Originally posted by JonD

Nice NC! To be pedantic, it’s “Da Full Rigged Ship” and “Da New Rigged Ship” cuz they’re Shetland tunes. (Or, it’s all da same if you’re from Chicago…)


LOL thanks Jon, got it on da names!

Oct 22, 2024 - 4:57:53 AM
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Erockin

USA

1314 posts since 9/3/2022

quote:
Originally posted by ChickenMan

That there IS a great record by a couple of giants in the industry. I can't imagine seeing/hearing this in a coffee shop.


We've gotten many cups of coffee here. I even had a job interview here a ways back. So glad someone decided to record this. The commentary is pretty fun. There is a great documentary out there about Mike and his life of fiddling. His story alone is so touching. 

Oct 22, 2024 - 7:09:54 PM
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Quincy

Belgium

1442 posts since 1/16/2021

Elk river blues :-))) fiddle first in F#C#F#C#, starting on the lowest two strings for the A part and the second and third string for the B part., then I repeat but starting on the highest two strings for the A part and again second and third string for the B part and now tuning down :-))
I love all of the options this tune gives :)

Oct 23, 2024 - 2:52:58 PM
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1884 posts since 7/30/2021

Well, I taught my first tune! I was nervous, but I survived!
I was spoiled because everybody there was an intermediate to advanced musician...(one guy actually gives violin lessons haha)...so they picked it up weirdly quick. By the end we were playing it through jauntily, all of us together. :-) Phew.

I have embarked on Mayor Harrison's Fedora...it's got 3 looong parts...I think gonna take a couple weeks, but worth it :-) My flute friend plays it, and the session leader too, and I like it every time I hear it!  It's very nice slow like this too.

PS I learned "Jerry's Beaver Hat" recently - so with "Mayor Harrison's Fedora" I think that concludes my Hatwear phase laugh

Edited by - NCnotes on 10/23/2024 14:54:56

Oct 25, 2024 - 4:25:31 AM
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Erockin

USA

1314 posts since 9/3/2022

I want to play "Waynesboro" because that's where I'm from but all that high pinky play has all the dogs in the neighborhood howling. smh...

In time. In time...

Oct 25, 2024 - 4:52:43 AM
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15736 posts since 9/23/2009

Erockin...have you tried Waynesboro in sawmill tuning (AEAE or GDGD)? That's how I've played it and made it much easier to get to everything...lol. Maybe not for everybody, but it's worked out for me pretty well.

Oct 25, 2024 - 6:10:15 AM

Erockin

USA

1314 posts since 9/3/2022

quote:
Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

Erockin...have you tried Waynesboro in sawmill tuning (AEAE or GDGD)? That's how I've played it and made it much easier to get to everything...lol. Maybe not for everybody, but it's worked out for me pretty well.


I have not but that's a good idea! A friend of mine sent a version he did a year ago and I forgot all about it. Tried it this morning and I gave up. That open tuning is fun. May have to try that. 

Oct 25, 2024 - 7:03:20 AM
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Quincy

Belgium

1442 posts since 1/16/2021

Today only playing familiar stuff , no try-outs. Just my old flemish sea shanty and a couple of tunes I learned in the past years and that I can handle. I managed to put the bridge again as it should be placed and the sound is now far more open and everything sounds in harmony, no more tuning problems. I think I saved myself a trip to the luthier :)

Oct 25, 2024 - 7:04:52 AM
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Quincy

Belgium

1442 posts since 1/16/2021

quote:
Originally posted by NCnotes

Well, I taught my first tune! I was nervous, but I survived!
I was spoiled because everybody there was an intermediate to advanced musician...(one guy actually gives violin lessons haha)...so they picked it up weirdly quick. By the end we were playing it through jauntily, all of us together. :-) Phew.

I have embarked on Mayor Harrison's Fedora...it's got 3 looong parts...I think gonna take a couple weeks, but worth it :-) My flute friend plays it, and the session leader too, and I like it every time I hear it!  It's very nice slow like this too.

PS I learned "Jerry's Beaver Hat" recently - so with "Mayor Harrison's Fedora" I think that concludes my Hatwear phase laugh


Yay, you did it! Good nerves training I guess, teaching a tune to someone else. :-)

Oct 25, 2024 - 7:40:32 AM
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1884 posts since 7/30/2021

Anja, I wanna hear what an old Flemish sea shanty sounds like!
That seems like a rare thing to hear, from over here in the US!

Erockin, cool that you have a tune for your town. Agreed that you have to add it to your repertoire because of that…laugh

Oct 26, 2024 - 4:23:12 PM
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Quincy

Belgium

1442 posts since 1/16/2021

https://youtu.be/VcK9Md0xbnw

 

In the first short video you hear the original main melody video 2 is me playing around with the main melody

Can you see them ? Imagine a traditional folkloric dance with people who all dance in group in  a circle and then suddenly they start to form pairs, they  open it by bowing to the other one as a way of greeting and then the two dance around and together with eachother, sometimes hands on their side. Then they  clap in their hands and go on to  dance. Again they form a circle with all together,  dancing in group in a circle clockwise and against the clock and after this they form pairs again but with the next person not the previous one .

Can you hear this? Can you imagine? ( I as a kid learned  some traditional flemish folkloric dances that pretty much all went like this)

It would rock if someone like you would practise this tune and if I were to hear the result.

Feel free! :-)))

Edited by - Quincy on 10/26/2024 16:24:19

Oct 26, 2024 - 6:09:04 PM
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1884 posts since 7/30/2021

Thanks Anja!! Interesting!!

It’s catchy, and I like how it has the low part and the high part!
I can imagine the sailors singing it…or people dancing in a circle like you say…

I will definitely let you know if I learn it! :-)

Oct 26, 2024 - 10:15:52 PM

7233 posts since 9/26/2008

Waynesboro is a tricky tune.

Oct 27, 2024 - 3:54:39 PM
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3177 posts since 4/6/2014

quote:
Originally posted by Quincy

https://youtu.be/VcK9Md0xbnw

 

In the first short video you hear the original main melody video 2 is me playing around with the main melody

Can you see them ? Imagine a traditional folkloric dance with people who all dance in group in  a circle and then suddenly they start to form pairs, they  open it by bowing to the other one as a way of greeting and then the two dance around and together with eachother, sometimes hands on their side. Then they  clap in their hands and go on to  dance. Again they form a circle with all together,  dancing in group in a circle clockwise and against the clock and after this they form pairs again but with the next person not the previous one .

Can you hear this? Can you imagine? ( I as a kid learned  some traditional flemish folkloric dances that pretty much all went like this)

It would rock if someone like you would practise this tune and if I were to hear the result.

Feel free! :-)))

 


liking your bow hold!....

i would just check that my thumb was not locked every now and again....IE: Thumb joint is not bent inwards towards the bow, this would make your bow hold even more flexible than it already is....Nice playing, cheers pete.

Oct 28, 2024 - 1:37:02 PM
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Quincy

Belgium

1442 posts since 1/16/2021

Thanks Pete !! :) I will try not to lock that thumb!

Here is a good example of what the original song sounds like with text:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI_9xTxLdwk

Here with the kind of funny lyrics :-D:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddbTKf9hdi8

Oct 28, 2024 - 4:24:46 PM

3177 posts since 4/6/2014

Thanks for the links Anja.

i like the first link of the original.

The second link you provided starts with a tune known in Ireland, (and other places) as  "The Musical Priest"

It just shows that the sea doesn't separate folk, It joins them together :)

I only commented on "The Thumb" because i have to keep an eye on my thumb also, to stop it locking.

Any chance of a translation of the lyrics for "Kaap'ren Varen" ?

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