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BenJammin - Posted - 07/01/2010: 18:01:57
Can someone tell me what tuning Tim is in here?
youtube.com/watch?v=3Pje4Bqvwqw
I don't think it's in AEAE
maybe ADAE?
GDGD?
help?
layne - Posted - 07/01/2010: 18:33:10
I'm fairly certain it's GDGD. I've dug Tim's version for some time now.
BenJammin - Posted - 07/01/2010: 20:58:33
thanks. i'm gonna try to work it out tomorrow
Tim has an amazing amount of outstanding tunes on youtube. I'm amazed with this guy.
coelhoe - Posted - 07/02/2010: 08:06:11
It is interesting how using an instrument reduces the irregular meter of the sung verses to something metronomic. This may be one reason why many conservative congregations banned instruments for religious music.
BenJammin - Posted - 07/02/2010: 09:46:48
That is very interesting, indeed. I hadn't put much thought into that, but now that you raise the point... Why would conservative congregationalists want irregular meters in their songs?
on a side note, many sacred harp (shape note) singings have irregular meters
carlb - Posted - 07/02/2010: 09:55:55
I uploaded miy version in EDAE a couple of years ago. This tuning is from the one I use for Glory in the Meetinghouse which is tagged on to the end.
fiddlehangout.com/myhangout/mu...p?id=2081
coelhoe - Posted - 07/02/2010: 11:11:40
There are several different kinds of shape note songsters and methods, and also several different kinds of "lined" hymnals ( see, for example "The Baptist Hymnal Without Music.") where the songs are listed by syllable length rather than by melody or tempo. This is a complex subject. For Sacred Harp hymnals, the tempo and rhythm are set by the song leader for each song. In early America, the upscale Anglicans complained loudly and constantly (several sermons by Cotton Mather on this) about the "..unrestrained howling" of rural congregations, places where the singers were all allowed to come to the end of a sung line as the spirit would move them before the next line was started, a practice ruined by the introduction of musical instruments.
The singer who backs himself on the fiddle has the advantage of freedom of rhythm, but on the Youtube clip he seems bound to the rhythmic expectations of string band performance rather than congregational religious music from that same tradition. I mean, try to play along with Ralph Stanley's rendition of "Oh, death" in "Oh, Brother,..." or the similar performance in "Songcatcher." In the latter film I especially like the performance of "Pretty Saro" by Irish Dement backed with solo fiddle.
Anyway, this is not a criticism, just an observation.
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