SueH - Posted - 06/20/2010:  19:33:14

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TOTW - Home with the Girls in the Morning
Here's an Appalachian modal tune that's been around since the 1800's. It has a rather unusual name “Home With the Girls in the Morning” AKA “Go Home with the Girls in the Morning”, “Coming Home with the Girls in the Morning”.
Texas Swing fiddler Bob Wills played it but it's really not too clear where he got it from. A nice version is on the 1974 Deseret String Band album, Land of Milk and Honey in a medley with “Devil in the Strawsack”.

There's some controversy regarding whether this tune is related to Snake Chapman. The Fiddler's Companion refers to it as “Snake Chapman's Tune”. I found some previous discussion from 2007: fiddlehangout.com/forum/topic....C_ID=1573
(and also on Fiddle-L)

It's a fun tune to play and I've always liked modal tunes. This one has a surprising major chord in the second part of the tune that rings out against the minor sound. A great tune to play at a jam. It is often played in D dorian, standard tuning or ADAD (Dm & C chords with the D major chord in the second part).
Dave Reiner has a great version in his book, Anthology of Fiddle Styles, played in A dorian (Am & G chords with an A major chord in the second part). I'm sure this would work in AEAE tuning.
Someone correct me if I have the mode mixed up, it's confusing.
I first heard this tune at a contra dance jam. I wasn't wild about it until I heard someone else play it, more in an old time style. Then I was hooked.

Information listed at The Fiddler's Companion:
ibiblio.org/fiddlers/HJ_HONOL.htm#
HOME WITH THE GIRLS IN THE MORNING. AKA – “Go Home with the Girls in the Morning.” Old-Time, Breakdown. A Dorian (Reiner): D Dorian (Johnson, Songer). Standard tuning. AAB (Johnson, Reiner): AABB’ (Songer). The tune was in the repertoire of legendary fiddler J. Dedrick Harris, born in Tennessee, who played regularly with Bob Taylor while the latter was running for Governor of the state in the late 1800's. Harris moved to Western N.C. in the 1920's and influenced a generation of fiddlers there: Manco Sneed, Osey Helton, Bill Hensley, and Marcus Martin. Texas fiddler Bob Wills also played the tune, which fiddler Snake Chapman heard over the radio (see “Snake Chapman’s Tune”). Johnson (The Kitchen Musician No. 2: Occasional Collection of Old-Timey Fiddle Tunes for Hammer Dulcimer, Fiddle, etc.), 1982 (revised 1988, 2003); pg. 9. Reiner (Anthology of Fiddle Styles), 1979; pg. 27. Songer (Portland Collection), 1997; pg. 99. Okehdokee 74002, Deseret String Band - “Land of Milk and Honey” (1974. Learned from Utah fiddler Ron Kane).

VIDEOS
A medley of "Home with the Girls in the Morning" and "Lonesome John".
youtube.com/watch?v=iFdrLLH2Ipg

Not the greatest video, but good audio attempt from Mindy at the 2009 National Homestead Monumental Fiddling Championship.
youtube.com/watch?v=eNJR3TqMxm4

Another version from the Old Yeller Dog Band (posted by dkmarshall)
fiddlehangout.com/myhangout/vi...p?id=1562

Speed it up, sounds like bluegrass from the Gazaway Mountain Boys
youtube.com/watch?v=6DkhoA6c0bQ

Slow it way down and it's a good one to play in church, Ha!
youtube.com/watch?v=PWGml8XWw3s


RECORDINGS: Home With The Girls In The Morning
1.Curley, Clyde. Songer, Susan; & Clyde Curley (eds.) / Portland Collection. Contra..., Portland Collection, Fol (1997), p 99
2.Deseret String Band. Land of Milk and Honey, Okehdokee 74002, LP (1974), trk# 8a
3.Duncan, Craig. Smokey Mountain Sunrise, Green Hill Productions, CD (2001)
4.Jennings, Earl. National Oldtime Fiddlers' Contest & Folk Music Festival. 1972, Century, LP (1972), trk# A.02 (Go Home With the Girls in the Morning)
5.Lost World String Band. Lost But Not Least, Wheatland 002, LP (1978), trk# B.02 (Come/Coming Home with the Girls)
6.Waldman, Ken. Week in Eek, Nomadic, CD (2000), 7 (Come/Coming Home with the Girls)
7.Wills, Bob & His Texas Playboys. Boot Hill Drag – The MGM Years, Mercury Records, CD (2001)


NOTATION or “DOTS” for reference
mmcconeghy.com/RIMUSIC/images/...rning.pdf

abcnotation.com/tunePage?a=man....txt/0099

kenkolodner.com/pdf/Homewithth...eMorn.pdf

abbamoses.com/fiddledo/homegirls.pdf

happyhollowmusic.com/musicpdff...rning.pdf


AUDIO FILES:
Posted by FHO member, Chard.
fiddlehangout.com/myhangout/me...archived=

Ken Kolodner has three sound files; the basic tune, slow with ornamentation and full tempo on his web page. kenkolodner.com/fiddlerepertoire.html

Happy Hollow music by Hope Greitzer.
happyhollowmusic.com/musicpdff...rning.mp3

WORDS There's probably a lot ways to sing this tune but here's one of them.

When I was a younger man,
Come and hear my story
Sang and danced the whole night long
Came home with the girls in the morning

Come on Grandpa, sing your song
Come and tell your story
Tell us how you danced all night
Came home with the girls in the morning

Had a dream the other night
Thought I was in glory
Sang and danced the whole night long
Came home with the girls in the morning

Come on Grandpa, sing your song
Come and tell your story
Tell us how you danced all night
Came home with the girls in the morning

So I'm interested in hearing if this is a popular tune in your area and how it's played. I'd like to hear some versions of this tune, maybe some of you will post an audio or video.

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Edited by - wormbower on 06/20/2010 21:22:54

bj - Posted - 06/21/2010:  05:39:36

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Ken Kolodner often uses this tune as a teaching tune in his workshops. Ken's a treat.

We haven't been playing this one, but I should probably add it to the list, it's a great tune!

dancinbear - Posted - 06/21/2010:  06:04:39

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Wow, you certainly did your homework. Thanx!

transplant - Posted - 06/21/2010:  06:20:18

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It just became popular in the area around this grandpa's chair of mine. Could stand to try playing that one a while...

The second dots link, the abcnotation.com one, puts it in D aeolian with a B flat, but I like it better with a B natural. In A, that would be the F natural or sharp, and I think it ought to be sharp. I'm usually wrong about stuff like this, but I hear it as dorian all the way through, with the major I chord a ways through the B part being kind of like a Picardy third, that puts the little paper umbrella into the glass.

vrteach - Posted - 06/21/2010:  07:57:41

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I had forgotten about this one. In looking through your list of recordings I must have heard it on the Deseret String Band LP.

Thanks for the fine choice.

Barry1963 - Posted - 06/21/2010:  13:13:01

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One I'd never heard of. thanks for sharing sue, sounds like a great tune and well done with your research !!

dsreiner - Posted - 06/21/2010:  13:23:31

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Originally posted by SueH

TOTW - Home with the Girls in the Morning
Here's an Appalachian modal tune that's been around since the 1800's. It has a rather unusual name “Home With the Girls in the Morning” ... A nice version is on the 1974 Deseret String Band album, Land of Milk and Honey in a medley with “Devil in the Strawsack”. ...

Dave Reiner has a great version in his book, Anthology of Fiddle Styles, played in A dorian (Am & G chords with an A major chord in the second part). I'm sure this would work in AEAE tuning...

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Thanks, SueH! I was influenced by Mark Jardine's fine playing with the Deseret String Band for my transcription in my book, Anthology of Fiddle Styles. The recording that goes with the book includes a notey variation that I made up but didn't have room to put into the book itself. By coincidence, I was at an Irish jam with Mark last year in Salt Lake City.

Dave

SueH - Posted - 06/21/2010:  15:02:33

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Dave - I've been working on the notey variation that you mention.
I've slowed it down and have most of it.
I've never heard of the fiddler, Mark Jardine, I really like his playing on The Land of Milk and Honey. This "album" as I referred to it is available as a CD or digital download. I guess I really dated myself.

SueH - Posted - 06/23/2010:  07:03:32

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Originally posted by bj

Ken Kolodner often uses this tune as a teaching tune in his workshops. Ken's a treat.

We haven't been playing this one, but I should probably add it to the list, it's a great tune!

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Yes, I'm familiar with Ken but live too far away to take advantage of his workshops. I did meet him at Meadowlark Music in Maine a few years ago where he teaches the hammered dulcimer.

Here's another video clip of Ken and his son, Bradley playing this tune.
youtube.com/watch?v=VTOb0fWAJV...mbedded#!

Peghead - Posted - 06/23/2010:  08:02:55

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Nice job, thanks -Greg

Ozarkian D.L. - Posted - 06/25/2010:  17:05:25

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Tho not too popular a tune in my area, thet's a great tune Sue. I think I like tha Happy Hallow Music rendition by Hope Greitzer best.