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On occasion, I’ve done this for fun. It can be interesting to see how a phrase changes meaning with a bit of rearrangement and it can make you pay more attention to certain aspects of playing. At times it can provide insight into playing a phrase more cleanly when returning to the standard form. It can, as mentioned, be a sort of springing board into improvisation.
Marty it depends. When I play with The Brigands, the music is pretty set and the crew gets upset if I improv too much, especially on duet tunes ( rightly so). But when I'm playing bluegrass, especially songs, fills and breaks, I always improv over the melody and chords. Trying to create a style thats elements of BG, Celtic, Swing and what evers in my head that night. Doing the above helps me flesh out ideas. Like poking a ball of clay and see what comes out. Keeps my bowing fluid and less rhythmically locked in.
I was just curious if anyone else does this.
I hardly ever play my repertoire of jigs, reels and polkas, but they are on reserve in case a bush dance pops up. However, when practicing "the Bow patterns" I do make up phrases to fit each pattern, and those phrases change as I become fluent with the bowings, as I continue to sequence them through the scales. Some times the bowings sneak into the tunes at appropriate places. I also find that the bowings will influence melodic ideas in my improvs.
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Originally posted by wrench13Take a phrase, say an 8 note one, and play around making it sound different - bowings, timing, emphasis etc, just to see what it sounds like? I do more of this then anything honestly. I feel it improves all sorts of skills and muscle memory, and allows me to improvise much better and faster.
Yes, similar I do this in various ways and to different degrees. Maybe this relates to discussions about how learns tunes, and playing freely. It's pretty much my background; part of how I learned to play, and how think about playing music, what goals. That is, I didn't come from background of formal music world; practicing; of things like scale exercises and execution of fixed idea "as written" instructions, (nor nec that there was a single rigid fixed "right"). Rather included lots of the idea of freedom; experimenting, noodling with and exploring ways can twist and turn the melody, (harmonically and rhythmically) to give different feel/expression. Also included borrowing ideas from other styles/grooves or instrument; or just noodling around, from happy accidents of discovery; open to what different possible ways a melodic idea can be.
I don't really think of it as jazz per se; nor necessarily about jazz improvising, along those lines.
A lot of it is "just to see what it sounds like?" - staying curious, ask what if? Some are set up as various exercises, using some seed idea as initial spark, see where goes. Doesn't always fully pan out, but feel like I learn something from it; overall skills or understanding, that might find useful for something else. One aspect it helps IMO, is for jams... ability to listen adjust and adapt.
Edited by - alaskafiddler on 10/05/2026 16:06:15
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