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Jan 18, 2024 - 7:10:14 AM

3564 posts since 9/13/2009

Valse d'Hiver (Winter Waltz) is also great tune.

Jan 18, 2024 - 7:38:19 AM
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Quincy

Belgium

849 posts since 1/16/2021

Briar Picker Brown yay ! I got this at a slow speed and a little bit more up tempo and now heading towards speeding it up.
Finally everything comes together, I start to understand why I would need a certain kind of crosstuning for certain types of tunes in certain types of key and oh yes this brings me my beloved euphoria :-D
Trying to play together with other instruments is my goal now, gone the solo figuring it out , gone with ideas of pressure that I would perhaps need a metronome or the sheet music - I do NOT need them, they are not mandatory phew.

Jan 18, 2024 - 8:14:04 AM
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Erockin

USA

875 posts since 9/3/2022

quote:
Originally posted by Quincy

Briar Picker Brown yay ! I got this at a slow speed and a little bit more up tempo and now heading towards speeding it up.
Finally everything comes together, I start to understand why I would need a certain kind of crosstuning for certain types of tunes in certain types of key and oh yes this brings me my beloved euphoria :-D
Trying to play together with other instruments is my goal now, gone the solo figuring it out , gone with ideas of pressure that I would perhaps need a metronome or the sheet music - I do NOT need them, they are not mandatory phew.


My biggest hep is playing along with old time jams on YouTube not to mention all the playalong tracks. Especially the ones in variable speeds. The goal is to find others to play with! 

Jan 18, 2024 - 8:25:59 AM

14811 posts since 9/23/2009

For the past several years, the only time I play or feel like I've played is to make a multi track recording and stick it up onto youtube. Seems nuts. I kinda hate it that I do it but there seems to be nothing else to do. I often wonder if I got rid of presonus and all the instruments would I just be ok and forget about that apparent need in my life and get on with other stuff...or would I totally lose my mind, which I've been pretty close to due to all the recent events and how our lives have become by now. But anyway...seems I've played every tune I can remember hearing or knowing about on my youtube channel...I've got over 400 on my major playlist, and I'm just not in the mood to go huntin' for tunes...just like playing the ones I'm familiar with.

But I also have jamming tracks I decided to make at one point or other, finding myself frustrated with no playing at all outside of making multi tracks...which just seems time-consuming to do. But there's problems with those jam tracks...like...you have to choose...will this jam track be something I could sing with, sing harmonies with, play banjo with, play fiddle with, play guitar with...I mean...what do you leave out so you can do the other things, and then you have to choose which other things you can do with that jam track and thus stuck once again with "nobody" else playing except one instrument, etc.

So now I'm trying to find a way...so I was wondering here lately if I made "jam" tracks for personal use...and just throw 'em out there on youtube for ease of my own playing (I don't have anyway to play them really...youtube works best for what I've got device-wise...don't ask question...I don't wanna 'splain why, just trust me on this...lol) and then maybe the thought that somebody else somewhere in this lonely world of music might find some fun jamming with too..I mean, there could be one other weirdo out there like me...lol...but probably has their own setup for it. Still...I think I would enjoy the use if I could figure out a way...so I'm thinking...leave out instruments on the first couple of go-rounds on a tune...then play another go-round that gives me time to put one instrument away and get another, and in the next go-round have the other instruments going except for the one I wanna pick up for that, etc., etc., etc. Sounds kinda nuts...but...it might add something to my world...lol...which is isolated and quiet, except for the beautful birds making music all the day.

Jan 18, 2024 - 10:05:11 AM

103 posts since 4/17/2023

I like that approach... playing what you know and interpreting from there...

I've been playin a version of Mary of the Wild Moor as an instrumental (the words are even too miserable for me). I don't know where I learned it exactly because it's different than the popular Louvin Brothers version. I found some sheet music from the 1800s and it's similar to that, though I know I didn't get it there. I think I got it from old fiddlers in the early 90s who gathered at a small community jam on the Maryland side of Backbone Mountain. We'll be playing it at a gig this weekend in Wichita, Kansas.

Jan 18, 2024 - 10:44:06 AM

1130 posts since 7/30/2021

Peggy I think you would make beautiful jam tracks! :-) Don't be surprised if a bunch of people out there start playing along...

Edited by - NCnotes on 01/18/2024 10:45:34

Jan 18, 2024 - 10:55:15 AM

11441 posts since 3/19/2009

The Battle of Cedar Creek

Jan 18, 2024 - 6:45:48 PM
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3564 posts since 9/13/2009

quote:
Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

For the past several years, the only time I play or feel like I've played is to make a multi track recording and stick it up onto youtube. Seems nuts. I kinda hate it that I do it but there seems to be nothing else to do. I often wonder if I got rid of presonus and all the instruments would I just be ok and forget about that apparent need in my life and get on with other stuff...or would I totally lose my mind, which I've been pretty close to due to all the recent events and how our lives have become by now. But anyway...seems I've played every tune I can remember hearing or knowing about on my youtube channel...I've got over 400 on my major playlist, and I'm just not in the mood to go huntin' for tunes...just like playing the ones I'm familiar with.

But I also have jamming tracks I decided to make at one point or other, finding myself frustrated with no playing at all outside of making multi tracks...which just seems time-consuming to do. But there's problems with those jam tracks...like...you have to choose...will this jam track be something I could sing with, sing harmonies with, play banjo with, play fiddle with, play guitar with...I mean...what do you leave out so you can do the other things, and then you have to choose which other things you can do with that jam track and thus stuck once again with "nobody" else playing except one instrument, etc.

So now I'm trying to find a way...so I was wondering here lately if I made "jam" tracks for personal use...and just throw 'em out there on youtube for ease of my own playing (I don't have anyway to play them really...youtube works best for what I've got device-wise...don't ask question...I don't wanna 'splain why, just trust me on this...lol) and then maybe the thought that somebody else somewhere in this lonely world of music might find some fun jamming with too..I mean, there could be one other weirdo out there like me...lol...but probably has their own setup for it. Still...I think I would enjoy the use if I could figure out a way...so I'm thinking...leave out instruments on the first couple of go-rounds on a tune...then play another go-round that gives me time to put one instrument away and get another, and in the next go-round have the other instruments going except for the one I wanna pick up for that, etc., etc., etc. Sounds kinda nuts...but...it might add something to my world...lol...which is isolated and quiet, except for the beautful birds making music all the day.


Part of why I brought up BandLab (or other similar apps)...

Was way to address some of these things folks mention about being in loney world; not having others to play with, but would like to. Of, course some are not not multi-instrument players and would like still to play with a guitar (or other) player. 

This has the advantage over canned backing tracks... in it's interactive and flexible... playing remotely with another real live person; that allows that you can DISCUSS how tailor version in your own way which version, tempo, chords... and who plays what when. Offers feedback, like other situations playing with others, the inital idea/draft it's not fixed, necessarily the final; as team, change things as progress; maybe this or that would work better

I should clarify, in case ther might be confusion or concerns... while I made this FHO collaboration/jam... that's just demonstration of one thing can do with the app but there are many other possibilities. For that, I made it open to all. The default is it's PRIVATE. Only those you invite; so can limit it to playing with only your buds or those feel comfortable with. As well, the only other people that will listen to any of that, are who you decide to share it with, if any. You can make it "public" but don't have to.

Again, it's really easy apps, can just try/use phone. (or can use computer and regular setup)... it's really not that techie requirement oriented (no more than others, much less IMO)... folks can use my Blackest Crow to try out, or start another project to more to your liking to try out and see what potential. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Edited by - alaskafiddler on 01/18/2024 18:47:15

Jan 18, 2024 - 8:22:13 PM

2434 posts since 12/11/2008

Over the Rainbow
If I Only Had a Brain
Theme from the First Movement of Mahler's First Symphony
The High and the Mighty
Lawrence of Arabia
Purple Haze
The Beatles' All My Lovin'
A bunch of brainless blues licks.

Jan 18, 2024 - 9:36:59 PM

421 posts since 6/3/2016

I'm working on quite a list right now. What I worked on most today was Hell and Grace in F.

Jan 19, 2024 - 6:27:24 AM

14811 posts since 9/23/2009

quote:
Originally posted by alaskafiddler
quote:
Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

For the past several years, the only time I play or feel like I've played is to make a multi track recording and stick it up onto youtube. Seems nuts. I kinda hate it that I do it but there seems to be nothing else to do. I often wonder if I got rid of presonus and all the instruments would I just be ok and forget about that apparent need in my life and get on with other stuff...or would I totally lose my mind, which I've been pretty close to due to all the recent events and how our lives have become by now. But anyway...seems I've played every tune I can remember hearing or knowing about on my youtube channel...I've got over 400 on my major playlist, and I'm just not in the mood to go huntin' for tunes...just like playing the ones I'm familiar with.

But I also have jamming tracks I decided to make at one point or other, finding myself frustrated with no playing at all outside of making multi tracks...which just seems time-consuming to do. But there's problems with those jam tracks...like...you have to choose...will this jam track be something I could sing with, sing harmonies with, play banjo with, play fiddle with, play guitar with...I mean...what do you leave out so you can do the other things, and then you have to choose which other things you can do with that jam track and thus stuck once again with "nobody" else playing except one instrument, etc.

So now I'm trying to find a way...so I was wondering here lately if I made "jam" tracks for personal use...and just throw 'em out there on youtube for ease of my own playing (I don't have anyway to play them really...youtube works best for what I've got device-wise...don't ask question...I don't wanna 'splain why, just trust me on this...lol) and then maybe the thought that somebody else somewhere in this lonely world of music might find some fun jamming with too..I mean, there could be one other weirdo out there like me...lol...but probably has their own setup for it. Still...I think I would enjoy the use if I could figure out a way...so I'm thinking...leave out instruments on the first couple of go-rounds on a tune...then play another go-round that gives me time to put one instrument away and get another, and in the next go-round have the other instruments going except for the one I wanna pick up for that, etc., etc., etc. Sounds kinda nuts...but...it might add something to my world...lol...which is isolated and quiet, except for the beautful birds making music all the day.


Part of why I brought up BandLab (or other similar apps)...

Was way to address some of these things folks mention about being in loney world; not having others to play with, but would like to. Of, course some are not not multi-instrument players and would like still to play with a guitar (or other) player. 

This has the advantage over canned backing tracks... in it's interactive and flexible... playing remotely with another real live person; that allows that you can DISCUSS how tailor version in your own way which version, tempo, chords... and who plays what when. Offers feedback, like other situations playing with others, the inital idea/draft it's not fixed, necessarily the final; as team, change things as progress; maybe this or that would work better

I should clarify, in case ther might be confusion or concerns... while I made this FHO collaboration/jam... that's just demonstration of one thing can do with the app but there are many other possibilities. For that, I made it open to all. The default is it's PRIVATE. Only those you invite; so can limit it to playing with only your buds or those feel comfortable with. As well, the only other people that will listen to any of that, are who you decide to share it with, if any. You can make it "public" but don't have to.

Again, it's really easy apps, can just try/use phone. (or can use computer and regular setup)... it's really not that techie requirement oriented (no more than others, much less IMO)... folks can use my Blackest Crow to try out, or start another project to more to your liking to try out and see what potential. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.


Oh wow I did the quote thing...lol.  Well it's a very nice idea, these virtual jams people can jump into and have fun with...my problem is the usual...  that being the I.D.-10-T. technical issue.

Jan 19, 2024 - 6:33:38 AM
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Erockin

USA

875 posts since 9/3/2022

I've jammed with Peggy and she don't even know it! lol

Jan 19, 2024 - 8:57:19 AM
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1130 posts since 7/30/2021

Erockin have you discovered the Old Time Jam Machine yet? It's fun too...

https://www.oldtimejam.com/

Jan 19, 2024 - 9:51:02 AM
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Erockin

USA

875 posts since 9/3/2022

quote:
Originally posted by NCnotes

Erockin have you discovered the Old Time Jam Machine yet? It's fun too...

https://www.oldtimejam.com/


Holy smokes I have not. So far, this a pretty cool tool. Thanks! 

Jan 19, 2024 - 10:05:26 AM
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14811 posts since 9/23/2009

Old Time Jam will keep you busy for a long time...lol. Enjoy!

Jan 19, 2024 - 12:36:07 PM

14811 posts since 9/23/2009

Anybody else struggling with the techie I.D. ten T. issue?

Edited by - groundhogpeggy on 01/19/2024 12:36:36

Jan 19, 2024 - 2:10:30 PM

14811 posts since 9/23/2009

Aw, come on guys...you know that problem...the ol' I.D. ten T. problem. Anyone, anyone?

Jan 19, 2024 - 6:32:03 PM
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3564 posts since 9/13/2009

The old adage

If you predetermine whether you can or think you can’t... you’re probably going to be right.

Certainly case, if before even trying to do something, predetermine can't/fail; so won't try nor discuss it... it pretty much guarantees will be right.

Applies to playing fiddle, new tunes, what tune playing today; or some app.

With music, it's a choice, not obligated. Do what makes happy.

Jan 19, 2024 - 6:49:11 PM
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3314 posts since 10/22/2007

It's been awhile since I had a pickup on my banjer. In some states it's a misdemeanor. Well, after the obligatory Rollin in my Sweet Babies Arms, I done Streets of Bakersfield. Then Tom Petty's, American Girl. Then, The Waiting. Then Stop Dragging My Heart Around. It was about that time, it occurred to me I forgot how the chorus went. Next time, my friend. Next time.

Jan 19, 2024 - 6:55:40 PM
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14811 posts since 9/23/2009

Well I'm thinkin' nobody got my little techie joke...see some of us old folks didn't get into technology, and really miss the "analog age," when you just did stuff instead of fiddling around with apps and devics and all that...so...there was a joke about an old guy messin with his computer, frustrated, got the kid next door to come over and have a look. The kid fixed it and got it workin' for him in a matter of seconds and starts to leave. The guy says wait a minute because he wanted to know what the problem was...the kid says oh you just have an I.D. ten T. problem. They guy writes it down to remember it for next time..."ID1OT." Lol...just my joke. Some of us have used analog things and objects for so long that our skill sets might still be there and never did catch up to the world of devices, passwords, codes, apps, push buttons or whatever...It is good to see people enjoying that...but the frustration level, the shopping for this and that, the apps, the devices (mine aren't very good or up to date)...etc. It would be out of my league.

Jan 19, 2024 - 6:58:56 PM

14811 posts since 9/23/2009

there might be some acknowledgeable difference between actual predetermination and more of a been there/done that...not-my-thing type experience. but as i said before...it is good to see others who enjoy that sort of thing...so, no real need to pass sentence on those of us who never got into the high tech lifestyle...not much anyway.  

Edited by - groundhogpeggy on 01/19/2024 19:02:41

Jan 20, 2024 - 5:34:54 PM
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1130 posts since 7/30/2021

Peggy I think of you as plenty techie! You upload on YouTube, you create audio multi-tracks that sound clean and good and have video attached.

I did not get the ID10t joke…
but yea, am careful about internet privacy, if that’s what you are talking about!

Jan 20, 2024 - 5:57:37 PM
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DougD

USA

11787 posts since 12/2/2007

I got your "little techie joke." I just didn't think it was very funny.

Jan 20, 2024 - 6:51:40 PM

3564 posts since 9/13/2009

I got the intent of the joke. I not quite following what actual problems there are; nor what high-tech or special equipment referring. 

Sorry to hear folks had such issues or bad experience when they tried using BandLab. 

Here's what my first encounter with BandLab; was a phone app, cool way to jot down quick ideas when mobile. Just using older iphone5, and built in mic... went to app store and it just installed what it needed. It just worked without doing anything really. Created an account. First just test if works, created a new project with track. Record button seemed pretty self explanatory. Hit record. Add another track record. Had a easy multi track. It just worked. Sounded okay for a phone mic. Hit the clearly marked save button. Wasn't much high tech to it, didn't even go to any settings.

Similar found out there is a desktop version; found out it's thru browser, has nothing to install, just log in. Using my pretty old low tech desktop computer; and a older cheap consumer grade USB mic. All in all was the same process as phone; new project, or open and add tracks to what I did on started on phone. Again, just test if works. Same just add track and hit record. Again just seemed to work. Later hooked up an old Presonus interface with inexpensive XLR mic I had. Worked the same. Again didn't seem any high tech was needed; nor had to go to any system settings or such.

Majority of other folks I've encountered with this found it also just works; for just doing this basic acoustic recording found, whether phone or browser, no high-tech nor really special equipment needed; just works (and easier than other DAW) Has cool feature to remote collaborate. A few did encounter need to some small tweak.. nothing to do with BL itself, just any using a mic and speaker/headphone., get some $5 headphone adapter; or sound setting; or found just ask, a little help resolved it easy enough.  So creates and encourages an easy way for them to record and share... on like a sound off forum; solo fiddle, or their own multi-track backing, or with others. 

Again, sorry to hear folks had such bad experience of using BandLab; whatever part that was, as don't give any details (so have no idea if is easy fix or requires high-tech PhD knowledge). Again no one is obligated to; just a choice if want to. 

Edited by - alaskafiddler on 01/20/2024 18:57:01

Jan 20, 2024 - 6:52:21 PM

14811 posts since 9/23/2009

ID ten T spells "idiot," lol, supposed to be funny...I mainly amuse myself this way...lol.

Well it's true somehow i have figured out multi track recording...i don't do things right though...back when I first started trying to do that, just looking over the instruction manual with all the id ten t stuff in there, then turning to youtube, where there are what looks like hundreds of instructional youtubes zeroing in on anything you could imagine...well it was overwhelming to me, plus...I've never had the interest, motivation, or time to really sit down and learn all that stuff. So I just went at it "by ear," so to speak...and over these recent years just figured out my own way to make things work...I'm sure it's not the real way...lol. Like, I never learned to adjust volumes (don't tell me, please...I just figured out my own way), so like if I'm playing fiddle...it's too loud when the singing comes in, so instead of wathcing a million youtubes or plowing through technical junk in the manual...I just learned, somehow (not sure how) to duplicate the track, the fiddle track...turn one of them to a level that will sound ok with the voice and have them both together sounding at a good level when there's no voice to complete with. Then I go through and delete the parts of the louder one at all the times when the voice, you know the groundhog, is singing...I know theres' some function to increase and decrease volume...but my way is just what I figured out...so I do it that way...a wrong way that works for me.

Then I learned to make that scratch track first like a robot attempting to slam through the chord progression with the annoying metronome, so I can' forget about keeping all tracks in timing with one another...after I get a few track down I can delete that scratch track because hopefully after two or three tracks get put on the whole thing will start to hang together and be in the pocket...lol...or whateve ryou call it.

Just stuff like that I sorta just did by messin' with it...no time to try to work on it. To me, technical stuff like that is sorta like a car. Some people love to fiddle with a car and know how to put on the gaskets, change the hoses, put in new ball joints or whatever (my husband...well, he used to like all that and now he hates it)...me...I get in the car and if it doesn't work I don't want any part of it. I don't like troubleshooting a car or trying to fix a car...to me...the car must get ya where you're going or just forget it...lol...ssame with presonus...I turn it on...if it works I just figure out the map to my musical destination anywhichway I can...if it doesn't work...I go into panic mode and figure I just lost my ability to jam with myself and the other groundhogs.

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