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SlowPockets - Posted - 09/02/2007: 18:43:53
How do y'all play that, Is it the same as the A part? A friend was telling me it's the same as the A part only played an octave higher, but when I listen to it I'm not hearing that at all.
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"bluegrass is nothing but a hillbilly version of jazz." - Kenny Baker
bsed - Posted - 09/02/2007: 19:11:25
There are lots of Lost Indians, but I'll take a stab at the one I think you mean.
The tune has a "high" part and a "low" part, corresponding to parts A & B, where they are indeed sort of mirror images of each other.
Now I think if you take that same A part and put a different B with it, you have Cherokee Shuffle. Maybe that's the tune you're actually hearing.
Does that help?
"I can, and do, cut my own hair."
-Dwight Shroot
Edited by - bsed on 09/02/2007 19:12:56
SlowPockets - Posted - 09/02/2007: 19:44:43
The recording I have is on Kenny Baker - Master Fiddler, the A part starts out low and then the B part goes real high, I think he heads straight up into first or second position right from the get go.....
Well now that I'm sitting here thinking about it I guess it is just the same thing. Why am I having such hard time hearing it I wonder? Time to practice on it for awhile.
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"bluegrass is nothing but a hillbilly version of jazz." - Kenny Baker
woodwiz - Posted - 09/02/2007: 21:10:05
I play Kenny Baker's version. It only goes up into third position for two measures in the second round of the B part. It's really pretty easy (to play badly), but the A and B parts are nothing alike, except for the chord progression.
I transcribed it as I was learning it. I could probably send you a copy by regular Email if your ISP lets you receive 1MB attachments.
Michael R
Every Fiddler has a Dream
www.kcstrings.com
SlowPockets - Posted - 09/02/2007: 21:11:58
Michael I thought they sounded different. I'll send you an email so you can get my address. Thanks so much.
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"bluegrass is nothing but a hillbilly version of jazz." - Kenny Baker
fiddlebob - Posted - 09/02/2007: 23:38:08
Kenney Baker's version of Lost Indian is in the Fiddle Fake Book. The second part is high, but different from the first part.
fiddlebob
I never will be real good, but, I ain't as bad as I was!
Dick Hauser - Posted - 09/03/2007: 20:50:35
I have one version of "Lost Indian" that has the situation you are talking about. In Part B, it requires a slide to the "D" note on the E string. You never really get into the 3rd position. In "The Fiddlers Fakebook", there is a version of "Lost Indian" that is based on Kenny Bakers version. In the second part there is a sequence of notes that consist of -
Note Duration
B Whole Note
D (4) Quarter Note - 4 notes
D Eighth note
A Quarter Note
The B note and four D notes have alternate bowstrokes. There is a slur from the D note to the A Note. If I remember correctly, he really makes those 4 D notes stand out.
After looking at the version in the "fakebook" I think I will give it a try. Recently I decided to learn a few of Kenny Baker's numbers. This tune might be the one to start out with.
My favorite version of "Lost Indian" has lots of double stops. It was on a CD featuring the Mississippi Fiddler Jack Youngblood.
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