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pinch - Posted - 04/08/2009: 04:57:28
What does the number three over these barred notes mean? Does it affect how they are supposed to be played?
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tiquose - Posted - 04/08/2009: 05:02:44
Those are triplets. In the space of time that you'd otherwise play TWO notes (two eighths, two sixteenths, etc. according to the number of "tails" on the notes) you play THREE, evenly spaced
Janet
"Curiosity killed the cat but satisfaction brought it back." -my grandmother, Bertha Morgan Nelson
M-D - Posted - 04/08/2009: 08:51:52
Once you hear a triplet, you'll always know what one is to sound like. It's very distinctive.
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JohnnaDee - Posted - 04/08/2009: 09:27:18
pinch
If you look closely in the second example, the triplet has a double beam...like 16th notes. So that set of triplets would fall in the same amount as one 8th note.
A whole measure with 1 beat triplets would have four sets of triplets.
A whole measure with 1/2 beat triplets would have 8 sets of triplets. (you wouldn't see it printed out this way very much...just an example)
So the third example would have all 5 notes falling in one beat..with the first three in the first half of the beat and the last 2 sixteenth notes falling into the second half. (If you use a metronome and subdivide the beat, play it really slow, you'll figure it out mathematically)
Good luck!
Johnna
TimK - Posted - 04/08/2009: 09:34:34
If it were 4 sixteenth notes, it would be played : one e and ah
The five notes as written would be played: triplet and ah
TimK
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ptigue - Posted - 04/08/2009: 12:19:44
Yeah, you'll know a triplet when you hear it.
I heard someone describe it like this (within a 4/4 measure)
Quarter notes sound like "Bach, Bach, Bach, Bach"
Eighth notes sound like "Mozart, Mozart, Mozart, Mozart"
Triplets sound like "Beethoven, Beethoven, Beethoven, Beethoven"
and 16ths sound like "Shostakovich, Shostakovich, Shostakovich, Shostakovich"
and so on, and so on...
mudbug - Posted - 04/08/2009: 13:01:45
The first three notes in "76 Trombones" , coresponding to the word "seventy".
rastewart - Posted - 04/08/2009: 13:38:52
ptique and mudbug, great mnemonic examples--I'm going to try to remember those, in case I ever need to work on those concepts with my youngun, or with some hypothetical future grandchild.
~Rich
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JohnnaDee - Posted - 04/08/2009: 14:10:57
Would that be Hy-po-thetical...or Hypothet-ic-al? (5 syllables?.......)sorry
Um..I'm done now!
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bsed - Posted - 04/08/2009: 17:53:45
quote:That is freakin' brilliant! I love that way to explain it!
Originally posted by ptigue
Yeah, you'll know a triplet when you hear it.
I heard someone describe it like this (within a 4/4 measure)
Quarter notes sound like "Bach, Bach, Bach, Bach"
Eighth notes sound like "Mozart, Mozart, Mozart, Mozart"
Triplets sound like "Beethoven, Beethoven, Beethoven, Beethoven"
and 16ths sound like "Shostakovich, Shostakovich, Shostakovich, Shostakovich"
and so on, and so on...
Skunkhound - Posted - 04/10/2009: 15:47:47
Ditto!
Say it might have been a fiddle, or it could have been the wind.............
red-viola - Posted - 04/10/2009: 15:55:49
A key for me to remember is that arching line, curved above the three notes. It was explained to me as a 'slur'.
So the bow goes the same direction for the notes under it....3 or 5, as your examples show.
Makes sense to 'slur' with the faster timing notes like 8ths and 16ths. One day I'll get at them too.
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Edited by - red-viola on 04/10/2009 15:57:16
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