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WyoBob - Posted - 02/09/2022: 15:30:28
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Originally posted by Earwormquote:
Originally posted by WyoBobNice fiddling for sure. And a great sounding fiddle. Mind telling us what kind of fiddle but perhaps more importantly, strings, bow and rosin.
Gosh, gee, are you talking to me? Well, ok, then. My fiddle is brown and old, and my bow is pretty much a bow. ;) Besides that ... I use Hills Dark Rosin (year round) and Pirastro Chromcor strings. I tried different strings, but my fiddle said no. The bow is a JonPaul fusion (recently rehaired) which I bought new about 5 yrs ago. My fiddle is an old German fiddle - probably one of those many trade fiddles of the era, but a Stainer copy, and a good one. Her name is Cora, and generally behaves nicely if you talk to her sweet. :)
Yeah, I'm talkin' to you![]()
Wow, I may be on the way to greatness! I have two fiddles, a Kennedy Chinese job (that I had to revamp a bit to get it to play half way decent (high action at the nut and really high relief on the fingerboard and a GEWA that I bought from "The Bluegrass Shack" that was set up perfectly. Both, $400.00 fiddle outfits. Service from the Bluegrass Shack was outstanding. She set up the fiddle just as I'd asked for. The Kennedy, not anywhere close.
I tried several sets of strings in the 2 1/2 years I've been playing the fiddle and settled on ---- wait for it, Prims on the Kennedy and Chromcor's on the GEWA. I did try the Helicore's on both fiddles but got a bit frustrated with the A string not being able to maintain tune. No unraveling of the windings that have been mentioned on many posts on the FHO, just wonky. I really like the Chromcor's and Prims. The Chromcor's are a bit more "refined" in tone but the Prims sound good on the Kennedy and are a bit louder. I"ve been using Kaplan Dark and Magic rosin and don't notice much difference. They both seem to work pretty well.
And my second improvement in my fiddle journey was the purchase of a JonPaul Fusion bow! Prior to the Fusion, I had a CODA NX that cost twice as much but, it really didn't "speak to me". The thumb pad was giant and uncomfortable. The tone was great but, it didn't "glide over the strings" so I sold it to a friend. I bought the Fusion from the FiddlerShop. It "plays" effortlessly when compared to the NX. The Fiddlershop offers a lifetime warranty on the Fusion (not the hair, of course) and I bought the Chromcor's from them as well. I also have a couple of $35.00 KMise C.F. bows (Amazon) that are a close second to the Fusion if you can believe that and I play them quite a bit (to save me from having to ever worry about re-hairing the Fusion).
Now, if I can live another 10-15 years, I might be able to play as well as you! But, I'd bet I'm having as much fun as you or any other "newbie" on the fiddle right now! Good thing. At age, almost 75, I'm not sure I'll make it another 15 years.![]()
Earworm - Posted - 02/09/2022: 15:39:03
Thanks WyoBob - I really appreciate it. Yes, keep having fun and you're half way there. :)
NCnotes - Posted - 02/10/2022: 11:07:45
Well, this is not a creative or original version...I am new to fiddling, so far the best I can do is learn/copy from other people's versions! I learned this tune slow from Rayna Gellert's YT, and practice it with Strum Machine:
Winder Slide
I think Bob picked a great tune for us all! ![]()
Edited by - NCnotes on 02/10/2022 11:11:56
groundhogpeggy - Posted - 02/10/2022: 18:15:55
NC, sounds pretty doggone good to me! I really liked it...Thanks for participating and sharing...nice fiddling!
NCnotes - Posted - 02/10/2022: 20:36:05
Aw thanks Peggy! I've enjoyed all of your recordings too!
I've got a viola lying around gathering dust (my daughter took lessons for a few years), I never even thought to try it with fiddle tunes but I realize it could be quite satisfying. And I've been kind of eyeing the 5-stringers too...
Random Music Thoughts -
- For me, Winder Slide is only about a week old, so after it ferments (festers?) for a few more weeks, maybe something that is a bit more ME (instead of pale imitation of Reyna) will grow? And she's got this great relaxed shuffle rhythm in her version, I can kind of get that when I play with her YT but I lose it when I play with Strum Machine (it's hard when the chords are going along straight with no "swing"). But I covet her rhythm...
- While recording I played it several times in a row, each time thinking, "I can do better than that." But when I went back and listened, I liked my FIRST take the best...Recording is so weird, LOL!
Quincy - Posted - 02/10/2022: 21:49:53
I enjoyed Bob picking the tune and the way it was presented <3
I kind of missed the start of this.
Now listening to the interpretations of Bob , Peggy and Rich. That is so cool!
Can I give it a try too?
Quincy - Posted - 02/10/2022: 21:56:18
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Originally posted by NCnotesWell, this is not a creative or original version...I am new to fiddling, so far the best I can do is learn/copy from other people's versions! I learned this tune slow from Rayna Gellert's YT, and practice it with Strum Machine:
Winder Slide
I think Bob picked a great tune for us all!
NCnotes, you play incredibly good!
I find it funny to read you are new to fiddling, you sound to me like a pro.
That you can copy others must mean you are that good, if I try to copy others I always sound different, I just cannot do this, I always invent an own simplified version of the tune I hear haha and cherish hope that one day I might start to sound like 'them' <3
groundhogpeggy - Posted - 02/11/2022: 05:41:45
I agree that NC does sound more like a pro than a beginner!
Anja, I could never sound like someone else much either, always sounded so contrived and overworked whenever I tried...I just simplify and do the tunes my own way...the only way I can manage, it seems. We're all different...some people can grab onto the styles of the great fiddlers from the past or even current great fiddlers, and some people just sit down and figure up their own way, however they can manage. It's all fun and we are very lucky that the world is filled with both types of fiddlers! All types of fiddling are great fun.
NCnotes - Posted - 02/11/2022: 12:44:37
I find it funny to read you are new to fiddling, you sound to me like a pro.
That you can copy others must mean you are that good, if I try to copy others I always sound different, I just cannot do this, I always invent an own simplified version of the tune I hear haha and cherish hope that one day I might start to sound like 'them' <3
Thanks Anja, I just started fiddling last summer, but I played violin (classical) for many years growing up. That technical training enables me to copy people if they play slowly enough. BUT fiddling is so much more than technical stuff - just because I can copy their notes, doesn't make me a good fiddler...
Peggy is right, everybody has their own unique path and style, and what's best is if you sound like your own musical self!
Quincy - Posted - 02/12/2022: 12:28:11
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Originally posted by NCnotesI find it funny to read you are new to fiddling, you sound to me like a pro.
That you can copy others must mean you are that good, if I try to copy others I always sound different, I just cannot do this, I always invent an own simplified version of the tune I hear haha and cherish hope that one day I might start to sound like 'them' <3
Thanks Anja, I just started fiddling last summer, but I played violin (classical) for many years growing up. That technical training enables me to copy people if they play slowly enough. BUT fiddling is so much more than technical stuff - just because I can copy their notes, doesn't make me a good fiddler...
Peggy is right, everybody has their own unique path and style, and what's best is if you sound like your own musical self!
Yes I remembered you said that , still find it funny, you sound so good :D
But I agree although I have no further ideas on what's coming next, that fiddling is much more than technical stuff, but I'm just here figuring out the basics so far so in fact I wouidn't know because I'd be happy with all of the technique :p I hope my own musical self can make people dance one day! ;-)
Quincy - Posted - 02/12/2022: 13:40:19
This is what happens when I try to figure out the tune from reading the sheet music WHILE playing as found on:
folktunefinder.com/tunes/7703
In ADAE here.
I found the Rayna Gellert version on her website, very nice, I should have a close look at that video.
Edited by - Quincy on 02/12/2022 13:40:35
NCnotes - Posted - 02/12/2022: 15:51:39
Way to go, Anja!! :-D
In that video Reyna plays it fast at first, but don't go away...
when she repeats it, she goes slower...and slower...and slower...(I actually have no idea how she manages to do that without getting lost!) By the later parts of the video, you can hear/see everything she does!
( Here's that link... raynagellert.com/tune-videos )
groundhogpeggy - Posted - 02/12/2022: 16:43:25
Nice job, Anja! Were you reading from those notes you linked as you played?
Quincy - Posted - 02/12/2022: 19:33:17
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Originally posted by groundhogpeggyNice job, Anja! Were you reading from those notes you linked as you played?
Yes, but I stretch some notes too long, like the B in here, that might change the rhythm. I never have the rhythm right from the first time, I mean I can still read notes a bit, but I am not that good haha.
groundhogpeggy - Posted - 02/13/2022: 04:29:39
I think we all could use a little brushin' up on rhythm, no matter how we learn a tune, hey?
groundhogpeggy - Posted - 02/15/2022: 14:48:00
Cool, Pete! Nice fiddling! I especially like the double stop that gives a minor sound at the end of the A part. Whole thing sounds great. Thanks for participating and sharing!
NCnotes - Posted - 02/15/2022: 18:53:50
That's so awesome, Pete!! I like all your extra little touches.
What tuning are you in?
alaskafiddler - Posted - 02/17/2022: 11:55:55
Since I was playing around with iphone and BandLab - in other post BandLab vs multitrack DAW - Discussion Forums - Fiddle Hangout
It is not really how I would normally play it... just messing with technology.
NCnotes - Posted - 02/17/2022: 12:06:03
Sounds great!
( And I really like the other instruments, it sure beats Strum Machine! )
groundhogpeggy - Posted - 02/17/2022: 13:40:21
Some nice fiddling there. Awesome stuff. Thanks so much for participating, Alaska! Sounds nice.
nickmc - Posted - 02/17/2022: 15:22:20
That was a fun song. Thank you for showing it to me! Here is my rendition! You guys have all done a bunch of cool versions!
youtu.be/7Sygv58fP10
groundhogpeggy - Posted - 02/17/2022: 16:46:25
Nice fiddling, Nick! Thanks for participating and sharing!
nickmc - Posted - 02/17/2022: 18:16:08
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Originally posted by groundhogpeggyNice fiddling, Nick! Thanks for participating and sharing!
Thanks. Looking forward to next time!
fiddlerjoebob - Posted - 02/18/2022: 18:12:52
Here is FiddlerJoeBob playing Winderslide for you all.
youtube.com/watch?v=69wZGm4IPYk
groundhogpeggy - Posted - 02/18/2022: 19:50:46
Nice fiddling, Joebob! Thanks for playing for us in the virtual fiddle festival.
NCnotes - Posted - 02/19/2022: 09:43:54
Really nice, fiddlerjoebob!
I have loved seeing/hearing everybody's versions of this tune!
Quincy - Posted - 02/19/2022: 11:36:16
This must have become the coolest and most entertaining post on this forum lately! Each time I pop in I am checking if there is a new contribution.
We want more! :D
Earworm - Posted - 02/19/2022: 11:41:45
Hey Quincy , do you know you can subscribe to a thread that interests you? Just hit the button below the most recent post.
Edited by - Earworm on 02/19/2022 11:42:58
Quincy - Posted - 02/19/2022: 11:47:18
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Originally posted by EarwormHey Quincy , do you know you can subscribe to a thread that interests you? Just hit the button below the most recent post.
Hey Donna, I had no idea, thank you! :-D
fiddlerjoebob - Posted - 02/20/2022: 11:59:43
here is Winderslide from the 2014 Hangout Media Archives. It would be hard to search for as Winder is not in the title or description. Good though... Its the last of three tunes on the video...I found it by chance this afternoon.
Edited by - fiddlerjoebob on 02/20/2022 12:01:45
Astrang - Posted - 02/20/2022: 17:27:14
My attempt at Winder Slide. I’m using a few short pieces of old time jam track for back up and tried adjusting it to play the b part twice. I’m in standard tuning.
groundhogpeggy - Posted - 02/20/2022: 18:34:48
I really like what you did with it, Randy. And very nice fiddling!
Astrang - Posted - 02/21/2022: 03:46:13
Thanks Peggy, Anja, and Pete, it’s always nice to be learning a new tune.
pete_fiddle - Posted - 02/22/2022: 14:22:51
Is Bob going to pick the next tune?
I think i may have been subliminally influenced by Bob
...
groundhogpeggy - Posted - 02/22/2022: 18:11:28
Bob might take a break from the exhaustion of picking our first tune and hand over the job to a New England kitty-kat for March's tune. This could get interesting...stay tuned!
NCnotes - Posted - 02/23/2022: 08:24:24
Well, hopefully he/she will not be like my past kitty-cat!
Any piece of paper, he just plops himself down on it and lies down...his favorite was to sprawl in the middle of the NY Times, right on top of the section I was trying to read...
groundhogpeggy - Posted - 02/28/2022: 09:28:55
The kitty-kat has spoken! This is our last day for Winder Slide, and we got a lot of good fiddling throughout the cold and snowy month of Feb. Thanks so much for everybody who participated and hope y'all did have some fun. Here we go again, starting tomorrow, with another tune. Check out Rich's post, featuring Maxie the cat, choosing our next tune.
christym - Posted - 03/01/2022: 14:35:18
Nice to see that the Virtual Fiddle Fest has been resurrected. Thanks groundhogpeggy and all.
youtu.be/82isrcxp_TA
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Edited by - christym on 03/01/2022 14:35:44
groundhogpeggy - Posted - 03/02/2022: 06:59:19
Christy, the video says "unavailable," when I tried to click on it. Couldn't watch/listen, but I'm glad you're here with us!
christym - Posted - 03/02/2022: 12:53:57
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Originally posted by groundhogpeggyChristy, the video says "unavailable," when I tried to click on it. Couldn't watch/listen, but I'm glad you're here with us!
Thanks groundhogpeggy :) I reposted under mp3s.
groundhogpeggy - Posted - 03/02/2022: 13:03:36
Thanks, Christy! That's a really nice version...nice fiddling and nice guitar playing too. Thanks for getting this one on here for us!
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