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Sep 1, 2025 - 4:13:58 PM
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DougD

USA

12665 posts since 12/2/2007

Scotty - The point of that story from Chief O'Neill is that "Boys of Bluehill was unknown in the Chicago Irish music community at that time (1900) who were mostly Irish born or first generation. Its certainly a popular Irish tune now, and as I said I enjoyed your rendition. A trade: I've read that some people consider "Sally Ann Johnson" as played by Henry Reed of Glen Lyn, VA, to be a member of that tune family. I don't think we thought of it that way, but I happened to have this recording of our band playing this tune in a folk club in Germany, Spring, 1978. Hope you enjoy it. (Of course it was recorded in Germany, so maybe its a German tune)!


Sep 1, 2025 - 6:34:51 PM

1762 posts since 7/30/2021

Great playing! :-D
( and Interesting stories in this thread!)

Sep 1, 2025 - 7:23:42 PM

JonD

USA

210 posts since 2/12/2021

I think the O'Neill story illustrates the overwhelming allure of the fiddle for those who seek to play it. Here's to Georgie West!

Sep 2, 2025 - 3:57:06 AM

281 posts since 6/16/2023

Great tune doug.
NC thanks for taking a look and the comment.
JON I agree with you on that one, I personally am not concerned where tunes actually come from.

Sep 2, 2025 - 7:54:57 AM

275 posts since 4/17/2023

I hope it doesn't come across as snobbery, but I think sometimes it is important to be accurate...

especially in the world of traditional American fiddle music where misinfo or dogma can cause limitations/rifts... or get in the way of music making... or carrying on traditions with integrity

how i feel might be due to some personal experiences of being reprimanded or scoffed at (incorrectly) at jams for sharing certain tunes/arrangements

but also, academics have done a lot of work on tune origins, styles etc., and respecting that work is a good move in my opinion

Sep 2, 2025 - 9:10:12 AM

281 posts since 6/16/2023

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, nothing wrong with that, doesmt bother me at all, But I personally will carry on playing this tune exactly as I learned it from my grandad.

In Ireland its played as I play it, and everywhere in England I have heard it, its played that way, maybe it is played differently in the states, thats up to those who play it. 

There are people in this country who think the tune is from tyneside and went to Ireland from there, and then to the states. To me as I said it doesnt matter at all. Its up to the ones who play it. Ifmyou ever went to Ireland you would find almost completely different versions of the same tune played in somewhere like downpatrick, to somewhere like Kells, no one bats an eyelid.

Sep 2, 2025 - 4:26:16 PM

275 posts since 4/17/2023

yep. i think a person should play it the way they want to play it....as i'm not concerned about a "right" way to play it myself.

here's a nice one from west virginia elmer rich... played in g.

https://youtu.be/Vb3Q6sPIg-Q?list=RDVb3Q6sPIg-Q

Sep 2, 2025 - 5:08:18 PM

281 posts since 6/16/2023

Think you posted the wrong vid there, did you mean to post the boys of blue hill the Irish tune.

Edited by - Scotty road on 09/02/2025 17:16:32

Sep 2, 2025 - 5:33:08 PM
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281 posts since 6/16/2023

Thats a great version, bit different to the normal American ones but very listenable, and a great title as well. Be honest though I couldnt hear much difference to the way its normally played over there. 
Thanks for posting that, already shown it to a couple of fiddle players over here
Sep 2, 2025 - 5:33:49 PM

281 posts since 6/16/2023

 
Sep 3, 2025 - 9:19:16 AM
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7188 posts since 9/26/2008

quote:
Originally posted by ShawnCraver

yep. i think a person should play it the way they want to play it....as i'm not concerned about a "right" way to play it myself.

here's a nice one from west virginia elmer rich... played in g.

https://youtu.be/Vb3Q6sPIg-Q?list=RDVb3Q6sPIg-Q


Aw, I see our Pogo commented on that one. Key of G - I like play D tunes (as played by most) in G on occasion. 

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