Just seen on the news over here that tornadoes are ripping across parts of the states, just hoping you fellows are keeping safe over there, looks pretty scary
Thanks for the concern and check-in!
Can't speak for the whole region affected, but NW Arkansas and SW Missouri Ozarks got a lot of wind and blown-in dust from out west. News says east got several tornadoes. Perhaps Mountain View, Arkansas area where they are holding the folk festival.
In my opinion, nothing out of the standard March weather pattern: very windy, then snows that blanket forlorn daffodils--a prelude to April and May severe storms--our spring is very violent. More so than Vivaldi composed in Four Seasons Concerto No. 1.
What is your March like?
Edited by - Flat_the_3rd_n7th on 03/15/2025 16:39:58
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Originally posted by Flat_the_3rd_n7thThanks for the concern and check-in!
Can't speak for the whole region affected, but NW Arkansas and SW Missouri Ozarks got a lot of wind and blown-in dust from out west. News says east got several tornadoes. Perhaps Mountain View, Arkansas area where they are holding the folk festival.
In my opinion, nothing out of the standard March weather pattern: very windy, then snows that blanket forlorn daffodils--a prelude to April and May severe storms--our spring is very violent. More so than Vivaldi composed in Four Seasons Concerto No. 1.
What is your March like?
This is worse than our standard March weather. This is a bad, bad, bad storm system that is having severe impacts on people across multiple southern states and will last until midday tomorrow (Sunday) at least.
Twenty-six people have died so far from this storm. This is just horrible.
Edited by - MikeVB on 03/15/2025 16:54:19
Yeah, you all in the South got it pretty bad, and don't usually get that sort of thing, right?
In Iowa, basically center of the country for those across the ocean, we get tornadoes often enough. This latest batch missed but we had high winds with thunderstorms and the winds have lingered.
I hope those affected recover quickly.
Edited by - ChickenMan on 03/15/2025 18:37:26
I lost one greenhouse, and panels off of another. Steel barrels blown over.
Years passed we had a chicken coop blow over the top of a two story steel building. One either has to overbuild stuff, or build stuff that's easy to replace.
I suppose there's a reason why I'm surrounded by 300 wind turbines.
Edited by - farmerjones on 03/15/2025 19:01:42
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Originally posted by ChickenManYeah, you all in the South got it pretty bad, and don't usually get that sort of thing, right?
In Iowa, basically center of the country for those across the ocean, we get tornadoes often enough. This latest batch missed but we had high winds with thunderstorms and the winds have lingered.
I hope those affected recover quickly.
We've been getting more outbreaks and more severe tornadoes the last 25 years or so. I read an article recently that said the traditional tornado alley has migrated east and south over the last few decades.
Update: At least 34 people dead from this storm system. Over 40 tornadoes in 8 states.
I agree the tornado alley pathway has changed considerably. Kentucky never used to be a target of many tornadoes...in recent years there have been a ton of very violent tornadoes across this state. Same with violent flash flooding that destroys everything and kills. We've always been prone to flooding, but now it takes down hillsides and structures and really devastates communities. Weather patterns, jet streams and such are off course and all that drill baby drill stuff ain't gonna help. It's well beyond time to try to work with nature instead of against it.
Edited by - groundhogpeggy on 03/16/2025 05:29:05
There has definitely been a change over the last couple decades. Until 2012, the only tornado I'd actually seen was when I was in the army at Ft Sill, OK, in 1985. Then I had a near miss in south MS in 2012, a direct hit in 2017 (an EF-3 disassembled a firehouse from around me), another in 2021 (hid under an overpass as an EF-4 rocked my world), then yesterday watched two pass my house within 30 minutes, the first one killing a neighbor a couple miles away.
You midwestern folks can take these things back. We've already got our hurricanes to deal with!
We had a warning here in PA all day and night. Just a bad storm in the end but still...
Boy, Missouri and Kentucky really gets walloped with violent weather. I suppose it's north and east enough to provide fuel to severe storms, but without an ocean close-by to moderate it.
Yesterday morn we experienced that system with just some inconvenient sprinkles that delayed fence repair.
Several KY places we've visited and treasured are destroyed. Hope everyone is OK.
A tornado hit Bloomington last evening.. took out a post office and two Habitat for Humanity storage buildings. Nobody hurt. It was two miles from my home..It is just a little unnerving..!!
Edited by - TuneWeaver on 05/17/2025 15:16:54
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Originally posted by TuneWeaverA tornado hit Bloomington last evening.. took out a post office and two Habitat for Humanity storage buildings. Nobody hurt. It was two miles from my home..It is just a little unnerving..!!
Yikes, I have quite a few good friends around Bloomington, and I was wondering if they were in any danger from the forecast weather in that region! Glad you, and everybody else I know, is safe!
Here are some photos from the Courier-Journal of some of the destruction: courier-journal.com/picture-ga...52861007/
And here's some drone footage from London early Saturday morning:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=UHUV3xDlnwo
The devastation is incredible - its amazing that anyone survived this.
BTW - This area is very close to the ancestral homeland of our member Groundhogpeggy. I hope her family and friends are safe.
Stupid 'nados.
Glad you're OK Lee!
My local TV station has a doplar radar page online. I've always got that in my pocket. That, and a tuner app. I guess these dumb phones do have a use, but you didn't hear it from me.
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Originally posted by TuneWeaverA tornado hit Bloomington last evening.. took out a post office and two Habitat for Humanity storage buildings. Nobody hurt. It was two miles from my home..It is just a little unnerving..!!
Merle told me about the weather and said he checked in with you. Glad it missed you!
Way too close to our old stompin' ground for comfort. So far everybody we' ve heard from is not affected...just a few miles up the road is where this horrible damage is.
Hope all the FHO friends are ok. Wish all this violent and crazy spring weather would just stop!
Edited by - groundhogpeggy on 05/18/2025 19:12:03
It would be nice, but I don't think this spring weather is about to stop. Strong storms are forecast for this area again tomorrow night. Glad to hear those you know in the area are safe. Tornadoes are strange - so destructive, but so localized.
We had about 20 minutes of sirens last night and emergency alerts on the phone. We got a ton of water lots of wind, but it doesn't look like we got any damage. No tornados confirmed, but lots of trees, power lines down, and roof damage in other places a few miles south of us. 70 MPH winds reported, and a reported tornado near Hernando - not confirmed.
Too bad about administration's budget proposal includes a 27% cut to NOAA.
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Originally posted by wrench13Too bad about administration's budget proposal includes a 27% cut to NOAA.
Well, not getting political, but NOAA can't change adverse weather, and I think most people know these days when bad conditions are coming, NOAA, or not.
I'm not degreed in meteorology, but as a retired .mil pilot, I've been trained to predict it's behavior, flown in it, been amazed by it, and terrified by it--over most of the populated world.
I can say that my 3-day NWS forecast for decades has been around 30% correct for precip, 50% for temps. Actually, they tend to change their forecast as things happen, making it merely an observation. Heck, my dogs can do that. Since I've lived here awhile, and depend on weather to make a little money, and thanks to internet radar returns/upper air balloon readings, I--as a bumpkin, can predict what's going to happen before someone hunkered in Norman, OK can. You know: it's May. Sky gets dark--get in the tub with a mattress. And a martini, if able.
Edited by - Flat_the_3rd_n7th on 05/19/2025 12:45:50
...FEMA seems to be on the chopping block too... not good, considering the climate has changed and regularly causes widespread destruction, damage, and danger to life.
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Originally posted by groundhogpeggy...FEMA seems to be on the chopping block too... not good, considering the climate has changed and regularly causes widespread destruction, damage, and danger to life.
Peggy,
The push is to send FEMA aid down to the state level where it will get there faster and more efficiently. NC is still waiting for $$ to filter through the federal red tape.
Wouldn't you rather deal with the state of KY for aid rather than some bots in DC that don't even know where KY is?
Well, there's this to consider... councilonstrategicrisks.org/20...security/
We are certainly getting close, if we haven't already crossed boundaries here. But as long as we are here...
There is no department of government that is indispensable if it doesn't serve a purpose. If it was created to fix a problem and can't / won't fix the problem then there is no reason to continue funding it. If something else can do the job better, then the funding should go there.
Why does an agency fail in its mission? I can only think of 2 reasons - (1) unskilled, unqualified, or corrupt management, (2) or an unreasonable goal / expectations were too high. Either of which means money is being thrown away that could be used somewhere else.
Florida has proven to me that state level emergency responses are much more effective that federal assistance (for most emergencies). The federal response to floods in the Carolinas, the train wreck in Ohio, the wild fires in California is evidence to me that the federal government has not provided the kind of support that is need when it is needed. That federal money would be better spent on things that do work - for the benefit of those in need.
Federal agencies should only be involved with issues that affect the nation as a whole - across multiple states. The things that one state can't provide to another.
And the same, just because a bureaucracy loses some of its funding doesn't mean it can't complete its mission. If it does mean that, then perhaps its not needed at all. Sometimes it only means cutting waste on programs that aren't needed or necessary to the mission. The savings means there might be more money available to fund other programs that are struggling.
Goodness... how much more debt can be handle folks? 37 trillion dollars. Think about that - seriously. 37 trillion is 37,000 billion; or 370 million million. We are at the point where our largest payment in our federal budget will be going to pay just the interest on the debt we owe. Right now - it is larger han the defense budget. Everyone hollers and SCREAMS about cuts to that - but interest payments do not give us any benefits - at all. THAT IS CRAZY. What happens next? You think losing FEMA and NOAA is bad? Shall we wait until the interest DEMANDS that we close them down - along with everything else. The house of cards is going to come crashing down - for real. What are we doing ...to our kids, kids, kids, kids. We are that generation - we did it - and we are continuing to make it worse - 20 million new folks getting federal benefits (housing, welfare, health care, and in some cases cell phones). Those are coming out of tax revenues that are only making that problem worse. I sometimes think there are folks who are saying "let's see what happens." When all that happens, global warming won't be an issue any more. Pollution won't be a problem any more. Illegal immigration won't be a problem any more. DEI, transgender, the orange man won't be a problem anymore.
Can you grow a garden? Build a wall?
Edited by - tonyelder on 05/20/2025 08:04:44
Well, though, there's this to consider: newsweek.com/kentucky-nws-staf...s-2073733 and... kentucky.com/news/politics-gov...5301.html
Then, of course, stuff like this to consider: kypolicy.org/kentucky-medicaid...st-shift/
I'd say most Kentuckians do grow gardens...building a wall????
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Originally posted by groundhogpeggyWell, though, there's this to consider: newsweek.com/kentucky-nws-staf...s-2073733 and... kentucky.com/news/politics-gov...5301.html
Then, of course, stuff like this to consider: kypolicy.org/kentucky-medicaid...st-shift/
I'd say most Kentuckians do grow gardens...building a wall????
...when you are the only one growing food.... 
...and perspective balance to one sided reporting:
In short, while national agencies provide foundational data, local meteorologists have the same access and can still serve their communities effectively. What’s lost with staffing cuts is not forecasting ability but rather additional expert voices that add to the level of confidence in severe weather predictions.
Edited by - tonyelder on 05/20/2025 15:38:59
