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Sep 9, 2024 - 5:02:29 AM
3487 posts since 10/22/2007

When one plays with the hair over the top and the stick underneath?
One can bow all the strings at once. Looks like it could be hard on the fiddle back.
Saw it on a vintage Welk show. Remember them?

Sep 9, 2024 - 11:00:30 AM

bsed55

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4380 posts since 6/23/2007

I've seen that several times. I also saw Liz Carroll rhythmically play BEHIND the bridge during a hornpipe. That's gotta be hard on the bow hair.

Edited by - bsed55 on 09/09/2024 11:00:54

Sep 9, 2024 - 3:55 PM
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6602 posts since 9/26/2008

Tim O'Brien does it solo while singing "Working on a Building" it's perfect, of course. It's on the YouTubes

Sep 9, 2024 - 7:11:06 PM
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1592 posts since 3/1/2020

It’s often referred to as the Venuti technique, as Joe Venuti was the player who pioneered it. You can hear it in several numbers he recorded.

Here is the master himself (starts at 5:35):
youtu.be/W3gAypnheyo?si=-zv9u5knvvHY7U7a

Lawrence Welk employed some excellent violinists throughout the years, starting with Dick Kesner and his "Magic Stradivarius" Welk bought him. I don't remember the specific episode, but I'm guessing it was Joe Livoti--he often played the jazz numbers. 

Edited by - The Violin Beautiful on 09/09/2024 19:17:49

Sep 10, 2024 - 5:05:12 AM
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15127 posts since 9/23/2009

Seems safer to me if you wanna do fiddle tricks...just to bow through a funny tune like Turkey in the Straw with a toothpick...that won't mess up your bow. I tried it once outta curiosity, imagining there might come a day when I know real live people again and we might all feel crazy and carefree at a musical moment and I could bust out with T in the S bowing with a toothpick just to get us all laughing...well, now I'm convinced those days exist only in history...lol...but my experiment revealed that it actually is very easy to play a short bowing type song like that with an ordinary toothpick. Just in case you can't afford to take a chance on messin' up yer bow. I mean...you can pick up a free toothpick at any greasy food joint...lol.  Just have the coffee and remember to avoid the food.

Edited by - groundhogpeggy on 09/10/2024 05:06:43

Sep 10, 2024 - 6:02:07 AM

1592 posts since 3/1/2020

I forgot to add that it’s also sometimes referred to as the “Four String Joe” technique.

Here’s a video of Chuan Yun Li, a star Chinese violinist playing an encore with that technique:
youtu.be/rgMVQXASxyc?si=FsfIOsqk-4ZgUCqP

Sep 10, 2024 - 8:11:25 PM

3487 posts since 10/22/2007

quote:
Originally posted by The Violin Beautiful

I forgot to add that it’s also sometimes referred to as the “Four String Joe” technique.

Here’s a video of Chuan Yun Li, a star Chinese violinist playing an encore with that technique:
youtu.be/rgMVQXASxyc?si=FsfIOsqk-4ZgUCqP


Sorry friend, I don't think that was the link you wanted. Good tho. . .

Sep 10, 2024 - 9:40:01 PM
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1592 posts since 3/1/2020

quote:
Originally posted by farmerjones
quote:
Originally posted by The Violin Beautiful

I forgot to add that it’s also sometimes referred to as the “Four String Joe” technique.

Here’s a video of Chuan Yun Li, a star Chinese violinist playing an encore with that technique:
youtu.be/rgMVQXASxyc?si=FsfIOsqk-4ZgUCqP


Sorry friend, I don't think that was the link you wanted. Good tho. . .


Oops, not sure what happened. I'll try again:

https://youtu.be/fSqiYSDFd7g?si=cJ5V-lwh7tw3XRWg

Sep 11, 2024 - 3:43:30 PM

6602 posts since 9/26/2008

That was fun! Was this a classical concert?

Sep 11, 2024 - 5:00:47 PM

3487 posts since 10/22/2007

4 string Joe may have learned it from a gypsy but I feel we must attribute it and a hundred other capers to Four String Joe!

"Joe, tell them about the flour in the tuba!"

Sep 11, 2024 - 8:48:34 PM
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1592 posts since 3/1/2020

quote:
Originally posted by ChickenMan

That was fun! Was this a classical concert?


Yes. It was part of a program held in Beijing some time ago. Here are a couple other encores:

https://youtu.be/hlIeAP51jOE?si=SHqLuudZNewc_3JJ


https://youtu.be/dWRjFCJA2_M?si=kxXB_g20_Pbwoo0C

Li is a tour de force kind of player with an incredible talent and panache. Add to that an impish sense of humor, and you get a performer who has the ability to keep an audience on its toes.

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