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Aug 4, 2024 - 7:07:26 PM
909 posts since 6/11/2019

Pompous picker

I don't care if it's a vintage Gibson, that's more money than a concertmaster would pay for their 100-year-old French or Cremona violin.

Mando picker's envy/jealousy of violin and attempt to replicate value

YGBSM

Edited by - Flat_the_3rd_n7th on 08/04/2024 19:19:02

Aug 14, 2024 - 12:17:10 PM

15080 posts since 9/23/2009

Good grief, you could buy a car cheaper than that!!!!

Aug 14, 2024 - 12:49:31 PM
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DougD

USA

12080 posts since 12/2/2007

That price doesn't seem unreasonable to me for an essentially pre-war F-5 in nice condition, but I'm not really up on the mandolin market these days.

Aug 15, 2024 - 12:14:32 PM

15080 posts since 9/23/2009

Yeah but good luck with that thing getting you to the store and back with a gallon of ice cream!

Aug 15, 2024 - 12:24:22 PM
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DougD

USA

12080 posts since 12/2/2007

Yeah, but what kind of music does you car make?
Different tasks, different tools.
You may not be aware that the most coveted F5 mandolins, those made between 1922 and 1924 and signed by Lloyd Loar, sell for between $100,000 and $150,000. Chris Thile reportedly paid $200,000 for his.
The modern replica of those sold by Gibson today are $20,000, so that price doesn't seem outrageous to me.

Aug 15, 2024 - 2:00:20 PM

15080 posts since 9/23/2009

 

Well my car makes pretty good music sounds if you plug in the usb or could be even better maybe if you subscribed to that Syrius thing or whatever.  AND, gets me from point A to point B without letting the ice cream melt...lol.

I just wrote up a big thing again and accidentally deleted it...ugh...I should stop doing that.  So once again, condensed version...but I was trying to edit to say my favorite fiddle came out of a trash can.  The lady who pulled it out of the trash can sold it to me for 50 bucks...and then a local luthier fixed it up real nice for 80 bucks...and I really love how it plays.  I don't love how I play so much, but that fiddle is kind to me when I'm putting forth the effort.

My favorite guitar I've ever had in my life is the old beat up Alvarez...I gently swiped if from my son-in-law, who had kept it for a friend who left town and wanted him to keep it for him...years, decades went by and son-in-law and daughter didn't have room for it so it came here...I played it and thought...OMG...this thing makes me play better than I'm capable of playing...it's nice to me, nice to play...a totaly pleasure to play that thing.  I looked it up on the internet and from what I could figure It's worth about 100 dollars.  Man, I have spent so much more on guitars that were total disappointments to me...Martin, Ovation, Takamene or however you spell it...even the Garrison, made in Canada for a while...Garrison was the nicest one but I wouldn't take a million dollars for that Alvarez...the joy it brings me is way beyond any price.  

Same with the banjo...I bought an expensive one...but I have a cheapie that I love playing much better.  And there was a cheaper one I had (Johnson open back) that I paid only about 120 for brand new from Ciderville Music, pretty well-known store.  I wish I hadn't have sold that to buy the expensive one...because the Johnson was much more fun to play.  So..yeah...I'd bet my car plays better than any mando costing tens or hundreds of thousands, just going by my own experience with instruments.

Edited by - groundhogpeggy on 08/15/2024 14:09:27

Aug 15, 2024 - 2:36:40 PM
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2591 posts since 4/6/2014

You do get a nice case with it though.

Aug 16, 2024 - 5:48:18 PM
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1569 posts since 3/1/2020

quote:
Originally posted by Flat_the_3rd_n7th

Pompous picker

I don't care if it's a vintage Gibson, that's more money than a concertmaster would pay for their 100-year-old French or Cremona violin.


I agree that it's a hefty price tag, but $29,500 isn't even close to what many orchestral players pay for their violins! While it's true that not all professional players play on expensive old instruments, it's not at all uncommon for players to have instruments that are even into the hundreds of thousands in value (or more, if it's something very old). Wealthy amateurs often play some pretty valuable instruments, and that's not even scratching the surface of the market share of brilliant young players.

It's amazing what kinds of violins show up in places you might never expect. 

Aug 16, 2024 - 7:09:13 PM
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909 posts since 6/11/2019

quote:
Originally posted by DougD

Yeah, but what kind of music does you car make?
Different tasks, different tools.
You may not be aware that the most coveted F5 mandolins, those made between 1922 and 1924 and signed by Lloyd Loar, sell for between $100,000 and $150,000. Chris Thile reportedly paid $200,000 for his.
The modern replica of those sold by Gibson today are $20,000, so that price doesn't seem outrageous to me.


I can appreciate that, Doug, but, you know, when you get down to it, it's still simply a mandolin. 

To illustrate:  we took a special trip to go hear Joshua Bell solo on his 300 y/o Strad--just so I can say I heard a master play a Strad before I die.  But I would not drive hours to go hear Chris Thile play his 200k Gibson.  I can drift down to the local music hall instead and have a better time stomping to a neighbor's picking on his Kentucky or Eastman.  I pick the mando, too, and value an easy-playing and good-sounding instrument.  But no one outside of Nashville really cares who made it, except a collector.  In which case the thing just sits in a showcase as a display.

Hence, $29,500. 

Edited by - Flat_the_3rd_n7th on 08/16/2024 19:10:44

Aug 16, 2024 - 8:02:56 PM

2554 posts since 12/11/2008

If I'm going to buy a musical instrument, its sound has got to hit me on an emotional level when I either play or hear it. It's not science. It's art.

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