Banjo Hangout Logo
Banjo Hangout Logo

Premier Sponsors

53
Fiddle Lovers Online


Jul 8, 2024 - 5:52:09 AM

RichJ

USA

989 posts since 8/6/2013

The Milliner Koken Collection contains sheet music for around 1400 traditional fiddle tunes. I purchased a copy several years ago, but even though I sorta can read sheet music I learn most new tunes by ear. I have been kinda' thinking spending money on that huge book has been sorta a waste. Today I discovered a phone app called Play Score 2 which allows you to convert a photo of sheet music into audible music. Take a photo of the sheet music with your phone and it will play it for you as music. Now I'm wondering if this is a way for ear learners like me to start delving into the MKC for the wealth of tunes buried in there.

Has anyone on FHO fooled around with Play Score 2 or any other sheet music conversion app that work like this?

https://www.playscore.co/
 

Jul 8, 2024 - 6:59:56 AM
likes this

DougD

USA

11992 posts since 12/2/2007

I'd never heard of it before, but it looks like it could be very useful. Some music notation programs can scan in sheet music, but they're very basic.
Rich, do you know that the source recordings for all the tunes in the M-K Collection are available at the Slippery Hill website? slippery-hill.com/content/mill...dle-tunes They can be searched and sorted in various ways, by player, tuning, etc. The Slippery Hill site also contains a lot of other great stuff.
Thanks for mentioning Playscore.

Jul 8, 2024 - 7:12:29 AM

RichJ

USA

989 posts since 8/6/2013

Doug - Yes, I know about those SH recordings. Trouble with many of those is they sound like crap and really don't help someone like me much. Getting a clean, uncluttered idea of the music, rendered though something like that Play Score 2 thing could be very helpful. Technology move so fast these days and much of it blows right over the head of an old geezer like me. Yet, once in a while something comes along that could have potential to make life better musically... especially when you don't have a lot of like minded folks to play with in the neighborhood.

Jul 8, 2024 - 7:22:11 AM
likes this

DougD

USA

11992 posts since 12/2/2007

Yes, some of those source recordings are pretty rough, but they also have the personality and nuances that are difficult to capture in sheet music.
I see there are other apps out there that can also do this, which really does seem quite amazing. I see that it emphasizes that a high quaity camera is required, and that paid versions are avalable. Are you using the free version, and have you had any camera problems?

Jul 8, 2024 - 7:33:06 AM

RichJ

USA

989 posts since 8/6/2013

I haven't tried any of those apps yet. I doubt camera photo quality would be problem in trying to use something like this. Cameras in most of todays cell phones are so much better that what was available in the average point/shoot cameras of a few year back. BTW, ever stop to think what we call a "phone" these days is really a pocket computer you just happen to be able to make and receive a phone call with?

Jul 8, 2024 - 8:12:27 AM

DougD

USA

11992 posts since 12/2/2007

Rich, do you mean you haven't actully tried the app yet? I was asking because the title in the app store says "PlayScore2 needs hi-end camera," and also "NB Budget phones do not have good enough cameras for this app."
I remember how poorly early OCR worked, and am just wondering how this does in actual use. There are other similar apps with higher ratings but you have to take that with a grain of salt.

Jul 8, 2024 - 8:59:49 PM

393 posts since 12/2/2013
Online Now

I've got play score 1 which was a one time purchase, not mentioned on their sitedevil I'll give it a try again, haven't used it in years!

Jul 9, 2024 - 3:07:05 AM
likes this

RichJ

USA

989 posts since 8/6/2013

From what I can tell the Play Score 2 is pretty sophisticated app capable of reading complex, multi-cleft music notation. By comparison, music notation in the M-K collection is very basic and just in treble cleft. Maybe a less expensive notation scanner/reader might be just as adequate for something like this, perfectly OK for a back porch, play-by-ear fiddler like me. Looks like there several, similar apps like this out there and several YT vids on stuff like this - just punch in "sheet music scanner app".

Just found out about this kind of technology yesterday. Always looking for some kinda' new fiddle/banjo adventure.

Jul 9, 2024 - 4:22:26 AM

RichJ

USA

989 posts since 8/6/2013

quote:
Originally posted by mmuussiiccaall

I've got play score 1 which was a one time purchase, not mentioned on their sitedevil I'll give it a try again, haven't used it in years!


The version you have is likely more basic than current Play Score 2, but all you need to scan those simple, uncluttered notations found in the M-K collection.

Jul 9, 2024 - 7:23:16 AM
likes this

15019 posts since 9/23/2009

Rich, I think your seeking new banjo and fiddle adventures is an inspiration I love to see in people. I wish more people would be engaged in that sorta thing. Can you imagine a world, or even let's say a small community, where everybody is always so thrilled with something they discovered, new things, new ways to enjoy the instruments and the music, and raring to get together and try stuff with neighbors and friends...wow...I do think life was once like that, before Michael Jackson and Taylor Swift and all those guys whoever they are came along...I guess music as an industry. People used to get a real kick outta enjoying music and sharing musical discoveries with their friends and neighbors. I remember those times in my own life and I wish people could get back to that.

Jul 9, 2024 - 9:14:14 AM
likes this

RichJ

USA

989 posts since 8/6/2013

quote:
Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

Rich, I think your seeking new banjo and fiddle adventures is an inspiration I love to see in people. I wish more people would be engaged in that sorta thing. Can you imagine a world, or even let's say a small community, where everybody is always so thrilled with something they discovered, new things, new ways to enjoy the instruments and the music, and raring to get together and try stuff with neighbors and friends...wow...I do think life was once like that, before Michael Jackson and Taylor Swift and all those guys whoever they are came along...I guess music as an industry. People used to get a real kick outta enjoying music and sharing musical discoveries with their friends and neighbors. I remember those times in my own life and I wish people could get back to that.


Thanks Peggy, yeah like everyone else I go through occasional slumps in the music department but always seem to bounce back by finding a new way to enjoy OT music. I guess my recent attempt at learning banjo is an example. That sure has been a learning experience - specifically how an old tune that might have been getting kinda stale when played on the fiddle suddenly can burst into life when played on another instrument like the banjo. Sure has got me to realize much as I love the fiddle there are some tunes that just can't be given justice with a fiddle and just HAVE to be played on the banjo to make em come alive. Anyhow, this sheet music scanner thing has got my cerebral wheels a turnin. There's so much OT music inside that M-K collection just crying to be explored.  When pushed guess I can sorta kinda work my way through a tune now that then by reading those dots. However, at my core I'm an ear learner and will always choose that way. I'm really hoping the geek world of digital tech can provide us back porch folks an easy way to delve into that huge book.  

Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Privacy Consent
Copyright 2024 Fiddle Hangout. All Rights Reserved.





Hangout Network Help

View All Topics  |  View Categories

0.109375