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Jun 11, 2024 - 2:37:28 PM
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15019 posts since 9/23/2009

youtu.be/3p8X0DboF-g?si=fu7ajA--naQ7bIoH

Don't try to make much sense of it...lol..Have a great day!

Jun 11, 2024 - 3:10:14 PM
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DougD

USA

11992 posts since 12/2/2007

Good one, Peggy. Nice to see that example of your "real" grandfather's art - must be a story there somewhere. I have a little collection of walnut halves with little critters faces looking out at me.

Jun 11, 2024 - 6:08:36 PM

15019 posts since 9/23/2009

Somebody in your family carve walnut shells?

Jun 11, 2024 - 6:21:43 PM
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DougD

USA

11992 posts since 12/2/2007

No, they've just split in half and look like little ghostly possums or something. I'll have to see if I can take a picture.

Jun 11, 2024 - 7:14:50 PM
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899 posts since 6/11/2019

Outstanding, Peggy...

I appreciate you keeping alive the country stuff, and things to pass on.

As far as my grandfather's art--I have his Gibson L-00 12-fret from 1926, and a barely playable mando that he brought back from the war. But, most importantly, his moonshine recipe.

I didn't know they had "Bo-dark" trees there.  Common in the Ozarks, good fence post wood,  never rots, like locust

Edited by - Flat_the_3rd_n7th on 06/11/2024 19:28:54

Jun 12, 2024 - 6:06:28 AM

15019 posts since 9/23/2009

Ugh...posting and somehow lost it all...so...once again... Doug, I was saying I misunderstood what the walnut comment was referring to...not some long lost grandfather, but the always-exciting pareidolia to be found all around us...did I even spell that right? Well but anyway...yeah...good ol' possums hiding out in the walnut shells.

Scott, thanks! I'm not entirely sure that photo of the smiling nut was Osage orange...I mean, that's what it looked like but I couldn't see any of those trees in that vicinity...but we'd had some windy storms, so it could've blown in from a little ways. If anybody else has an idea if it's something else...jump in...we need to know these things, guys! Yes, Osage orange, though, is a wonder in so many ways. People make bows (shooting bows) from it and I always thought it just looked like it should be used for musical instruments...I mean the wood is so beautiful. We used to heat with all kinds of wood, whatever was out there that we could cut, and I remember the Osage orange gave us a very comfortable fire, but if you opened the wood stove doors, the fireworks would shoot out...lol...I mean...I never saw such a wild and sparky wood. But the fruits supposedly keep bugs outta your house, so they say.  There's a name we used to call those...but i cannot for the life of me think of what it was now...some kinda name with " apple," I think.  It'll come to me later, like at 3 a.m. or sometime...lol.

Edited by - groundhogpeggy on 06/12/2024 06:07:43

Jun 12, 2024 - 6:23:57 AM

DougD

USA

11992 posts since 12/2/2007

Peggy, I wasn't very clear about that, was I? I was just referring to the "face" you saw in the osage orange (which I just looked up and see its also called "hedge apple" and "horse apple"). This link seems impossibly long, but if it works it'll show the little walnut shell critters and what people do with them: etsy.com/listing/1213521652/bl...AQAvD_BwE
Osage orange does grow around here, but its rare. We followed a little guided nature walk in Saltville, VA a few years ago and there were lots of them. I'd never seen them and had to look 'em up when we got home.

Jun 12, 2024 - 6:27:21 AM

DougD

USA

11992 posts since 12/2/2007

PS - Swipe the photos to see some of the craft ideas.
PPS - Wikipedia says that Osage orange has the highest heat value of any commonly available N. American wood, is rot resistant, and twice as hard and strong as white oak.

Edited by - DougD on 06/12/2024 06:37:19

Jun 12, 2024 - 6:14:29 PM

15019 posts since 9/23/2009

Those walnuts look like little possums and monkeys...lol. I've known of people who carved the shell and made them into little baskets and stuff like that.

We've got lots of Osage orange around here. I always felt bad putting such beautiful orange logs into the fire. I think of all the wood I've ever cooked on/heated with, hickory is by far and away the warmest and longest burning with the least amount of ash. O.orange is really good too though.

But anyway, we walked that same path again this morning where I saw the smiling "nut." It was still there, and this time I picked it up to take a sniff of it, thinking it just doesn't seem to be near O. orange, but it is near walnut trees. And sure enough, it smelled like walnut...so I take that back...it really looks bumpy like O. orange, but I believe it was an immature walnut that came down in the storms.

Jun 13, 2024 - 3:54:14 AM

15019 posts since 9/23/2009

Speakin' of Papa's Billy Goat...I can't think of it or sing it without this coming to mind.... youtu.be/gJRMX-58mpc?si=bPblyzUZUB9yIBaW

I think we talked about this the last time I did that song...lol.

Jun 13, 2024 - 4:07:21 AM
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loy

USA

1118 posts since 6/23/2007

Lol! Great song for my morning coffee this a.m. love your grandfathers drawing, shame you couldn’t have collected more of his art. Love the tune, as always so very well done!

Jun 13, 2024 - 7:13:44 PM

15019 posts since 9/23/2009

Thank you, Loy! Glad I could sorta be there for the morning coffee time! Have a great day.

Jun 14, 2024 - 12:16:20 AM

DougD

USA

11992 posts since 12/2/2007

Peggy, I'd never heard that Wampler's jungle (hat I remember) but have you noticed the similarity of the melody to "Reuben, Reuben, I've Been Thinking?" Maybe that's the song they were thinking of.
You've gotten me thinking about this song, which doesn't seem all that common. Have you heard the early recordings by Fiddling John Carson or Uncle Dave Macon? It seems common to play and sing a bit of "Sugar in the Gourd" after the Billy Goat part. Also, most people sing "the train came along at a powerful RATE" and that the goat flagged down the "durned old freight." Your idea of a powerful rain is very impressionistic - probably comes from your time working with Debussy.

Edited by - DougD on 06/14/2024 00:21:37

Jun 14, 2024 - 7:52:42 AM

RichJ

USA

989 posts since 8/6/2013

Hey Gang - Peggy asked me to post she's having log in issues and temporarily not able to respond. She didn't want anyone to think she was not responding because she was upset. Hopefully this will shortly get resolved.

Hurry back Peggy.

Jun 14, 2024 - 8:08:49 AM

RichJ

USA

989 posts since 8/6/2013

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Originally posted by DougD

Peggy, I'd never heard that Wampler's jungle (hat I remember) but have you noticed the similarity of the melody to "Reuben, Reuben, I've Been Thinking?" Maybe that's the song they were thinking of.
You've gotten me thinking about this song, which doesn't seem all that common. Have you heard the early recordings by Fiddling John Carson or Uncle Dave Macon? It seems common to play and sing a bit of "Sugar in the Gourd" after the Billy Goat part. Also, most people sing "the train came along at a powerful RATE" and that the goat flagged down the "durned old freight." Your idea of a powerful rain is very impressionistic - probably comes from your time working with Debussy.


BTW - Never heard the Billy Goat song growing up in Hartford, CT during the 1950s, but sure knew this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp19qxxn0EM

Jun 14, 2024 - 8:39:43 AM

DougD

USA

11992 posts since 12/2/2007

Richj - Yes, that's what I meant - the tune is similar, isn't it? And as I said, I don't think the Billy Goat song was really too common. It also sounds like a "composed" piece, but I haven't found any published music yet.

Jun 14, 2024 - 9:30:44 AM

1222 posts since 7/30/2021

Enjoyed that a lot! :-)

( Peggy, I can't believe you have trouble finding places to play. You would be such a popular musician here in NC! You're just livin' in the wrong place...)

Jun 14, 2024 - 7:33:34 PM

15019 posts since 9/23/2009

NC, very kind of you to say that...thank you!

Doug, I really thought the Debussy comment was funny...but got kicked outta here I guess all because I got a new computer and everything went wacko on me.

But yeah, the words I don't know about...rain, rate...don't know. I have trouble remembering words to most tunes...unless I play them every day for a long time or something. When my daughter and son-in-law were dating in high school...they'd often eat supper at our house...I'd be scurrying around the kitchen cookin' us all up a big meal and singing songs...I always got stumped or sidelined with either a blank for lyrics or sorta similar but maybe wrong lyrics...s-i-l, who was a big folk music and ballad fan at the time and did a lot of listening to Doc Watson and buncha other old folk singer, would always yell from the other room the correct lyrics when I got stuck in there in the kitchen cookin' and singin'. So I blame half of my lyric confusion on him...lol...even today.

But anyway, I had found the commercial and maybe I still have it on the clipboard...youtu.be/WthicQqKYBg?si=9ycIE-5zUvOyoPN3 maybe that's it...the old Wampler's Sausage commercial that taught everybody Papa's Billy Goat. If you didn't know alternate words to the Wampler Sausage jingle...you'd just hum or something. Stuck with ya...so did the sausage...lol...good stuff, really.

Oh, and Rich...thanks so much for telling my tale about not being able to get into FHO...I felt like I got the door shut on me in the middle of a very important (concerning sausage and music...two pretty substantial topics) conversation. Hopefully I'm back in again for good so I can keep on arguing and bugging all you guys!

Jun 15, 2024 - 5:32:06 AM

15019 posts since 9/23/2009

Also meant to say, the tune, whatever you wanna call it...Rueben, Papa's BG, or Wampler's Sausage...lol...you can hear a little bit of it when the tornado is tossing Dorothy and Toto all around through the farms.

Jun 15, 2024 - 2:11:11 PM

15019 posts since 9/23/2009

This tune has puzzled me for a long time...I mean, as popular as the sausage jingle once was, I always had to believe there was something more to it than just breakfast...lol.

Jun 15, 2024 - 7:42:57 PM

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Looks like playing around more with some of the video editing on new mav. Was kind of wondering how possible in movie software, to make that train photo look as if it's moving toward you?

Jun 16, 2024 - 4:39:16 AM

15019 posts since 9/23/2009

Very possible. By my grandson, not by me...lol.

Jun 16, 2024 - 6:37:17 AM

DougD

USA

11992 posts since 12/2/2007

Peggy, I don't remember that Wampler's jingle, maybe we were outside their marketing area. I didn't grow up here either, so maybe it was before my time. The one we remember here was this one, with the marching pigs:
youtu.be/a47atfA58kc?feature=shared

Jun 16, 2024 - 12:15:41 PM

15019 posts since 9/23/2009

Pigs seem to always get a lot of press about how happy they are to be going to the sausage grinder...the Piggly Wiggly pig was a happy one that handed out lollipops when he was visiting the local store...and up here close to Cincinnati area, the once-pork-producers of the area still hangs onto their happy "Flying pigs," lol...strange perspective on how the biological food chain works.

Jun 18, 2024 - 7:28:33 AM

15019 posts since 9/23/2009

Well this little song/jingle, whatever it is, has been stuck inside my head nonstop since before I even played it on the presonus...but what's really stuck is the Wampler's Sausage version. I used to make my own sausage all the time...mine had cabbage going in the grind, so...well you just had to taste it to know why I'm not crazy about ANY storebought sausage...although, seeing the old commercial and constantly hearing the Wampler's song inside my head, I did manage to buy some thick cut bacon and some pasture raised eggs...(yeah I used to eat only eggs warm from the hen house nest)... so every monring we are having bacon and eggs...not really Wampler's, but as I said before...it's hard to eat storebought sausage when you're used to making your own. One of these days I'll get the ingredients together and just grind my own, and then...look out! Anyway...I cannot get this song out of my head...drives ya crazy.

I'm halfway allergic to eggs or something...they make me sick, but so far this week I haven't had more than mild tummy aches with them...so...I just gotta eat 'em, at least until they blow a fuse with me.

You know...over the years there are so many foods I just flatout stopped eating because they taste terrible in the stores...corn, tomatoes, strawberries, blackberries, apples, pears, lettuce and greens like collards and cabbage, ice cream... and such...eggs, sausage...lots of that kinda stuff. When i was growing up and we had beef from our cattle, if I tasted hamburger from the store I knew it with the first bite. And storebought beef tastes even worse now than it did back in the 50s and 60s. But I've learned to go ahead and eat soe storebought stuff before I just flatout starve. If these pasture raised eggs don't make me sick...I gotta get me some more chickens. Oh yeah...catfish...we used to catch it from the river and it was just great...we moved up here, found it in the store, bought it...and were like...ugh, tastes like cardboard.

But here's the power of music...gonna make me eat like a hog...lol...or at least eat a lotta hog.

Edited by - groundhogpeggy on 06/18/2024 07:30:28

Jun 25, 2024 - 8:15:10 AM

15019 posts since 9/23/2009

Well where we live now I don't know if I could get Wampler's Sausage or JFG coffee...lol...but this tune will not leave my head for some reason...usually if I spend some time recording them they go away from my poor ol brain. Not this one...still goin' round whistlin, hummin', singin'...not the Papa's Billy Goat version, just the Wampler's sausage version. So I went to Trader Joe's down the road a ways and bought some Trader Joe's breakfast sausage. As I said somewhere above i think, I prefer grinding my own sausage and spicing it, etc. to ANY storebought...but I do remember Wampler's was really good as far as storebought sausage. So I bought the Trader Joe's sausage and I gotta tell you I'll be glad when we get it all eaten up...it' pretty bad...lol. As much as I like Trader Joe's and most of their products, their breakfast sausage tastes like hamburger...what a let down. I guess that song ain't gonna quit torturing me until I get some good sausage!!!!

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