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Jun 5, 2024 - 7:00:42 PM

Quincy

Belgium

943 posts since 1/16/2021

Seriously guys . This is D#F#F#D#

Do I imagine this or does this part sound somewhat Tool-ish? I find it does! My colleague can hear this too.

Is it bad for my fiddle to mess with different and non conventional tunings like this little experiment?

How far can you go with crosstuning?


Edited by - Quincy on 06/05/2024 19:06:04

Jun 5, 2024 - 7:11:31 PM

Quincy

Belgium

943 posts since 1/16/2021

This is a very serious question .Lately I have really been messing around with tuning up or down solely by ear and what I like to hear.
Would be cool to find some let's call them experimental metal players out here who are a bit like me and who want to find out and see what can be created this way.

Jun 6, 2024 - 3:29:53 AM
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578 posts since 9/1/2010

Does indeed sound Tool-ish! There shouldn't be any risk involved with tuning the strings lower. I wouldn't tune any of the strings more than a whole step above standard. So AEAE is where I draw the line, and much of the time I prefer to go lower with GDGD.

Jun 6, 2024 - 4:46:11 AM
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15073 posts since 9/23/2009

I completely agree with Rosinhead. Seems best to keep the tunings close. I tune slowly on the fiddle...not jerk it suddenly...because you have to watch your bridge...seems to me bridges are the most fragile part of the fiddle...they can lean and they can crack and then you have to get one cut out...which, if you're not up on doing that from a blank (most of us aren't), then you've got to take it to some professional. But I agree with Rosinhead, GDGD makes more sense that AEAE, because A tunes are pretty easy to get in standard tuning, I normally feel like for my own playing...a few simple tunings work out really well...GDGD for sawmill...at times I've gone to AEAE, but don't have a great feeling about that, ADAE for some D tunes, or the Cumberland gap style...ADAD or take that one down to GCGC...then Calico either from standard or down some...plus standard itself or standard tuned down one notch. That's all I ever feel like I need to do personally. I don't like to wander to far out there. just my two cents.

Jun 6, 2024 - 4:59:07 AM
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Quincy

Belgium

943 posts since 1/16/2021

Woohoo!! At first I got stuck trying too hard to play Drunken Hiccups so it was time for some distraction. I also discovered a new way of handling my bow on two strings this way, as can be heard from the effect.
This instrument has to be the most magical of all instruments ever created !

Jun 6, 2024 - 5:10:49 AM

Quincy

Belgium

943 posts since 1/16/2021

Peggy , I imagine myself bringing my fiddle to my luthier because the bridge cracked lol and getting this Told you so! or See now what happened? look haha. I feel very guilty already. I am saving up for a cleaning and indeed he should have a look at the set up and my codabow also. I will have to bring fiddle and bow in the fancy case that I bought from him which was chewed up by my dog when she was still a puppy. I bet when I finally close the door after me going back home a long held deep sigh will fill his atelier.

Jun 6, 2024 - 6:07:47 AM
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15073 posts since 9/23/2009

tuning gently and slowly and not too far away from the notes in standard shouldn't really do any harm. At least I've heard experienced fiddlers say that here and in my own experience it hasn't hurt anything. I do keep an eye on my bridge and tune down and gently straighten if it does start to lean...doesn't happen often but I like to keep an eye on it and keep it straight.

Jun 6, 2024 - 6:59:25 AM

6614 posts since 8/7/2009

can't delete duplicates... 

don't know why.

Edited by - tonyelder on 06/06/2024 07:01:29

Jun 6, 2024 - 7:00:36 AM

6614 posts since 8/7/2009

quote:
Originally posted by Quincy

Woohoo!! At first I got stuck trying too hard to play Drunken Hiccups so it was time for some distraction. I also discovered a new way of handling my bow on two strings this way, as can be heard from the effect.
This instrument has to be the most magical of all instruments ever created !


I don't remember the last time I played anything in standard.

AEae; ADae; GDgd; occasionally DDad; and rarely AEac# - and the fiddles stay in whatever tuning they were last played in. I've never had any problems.

I recently installed geared tuning pegs on one of my fiddles, and I just had a second one fitted with them. I probably won't have them put on my older fiddles (100+ yrs) - just cause. But the two I have them on now are nice fiddles that get played regularly. This will probably make them even more favored. Cross-tuning is a breeze with them.

I do like the sound of playing cross-tuned.

Edited by - tonyelder on 06/06/2024 07:03:47

Jun 6, 2024 - 2:25:28 PM
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909 posts since 6/11/2019

"Why can't we all be sober?"

Jun 6, 2024 - 2:30:39 PM
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909 posts since 6/11/2019

I hear more Led Zep's "Khashmir"

or something Metallica

Edited by - Flat_the_3rd_n7th on 06/06/2024 14:31:37

Jun 6, 2024 - 2:31:23 PM

909 posts since 6/11/2019

yeah, posting doubles today...

Edited by - Flat_the_3rd_n7th on 06/06/2024 14:32:07

Jun 6, 2024 - 3:22:55 PM
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2638 posts since 8/27/2008

Am I the only one who doesn't know what Tool Fiddling is?

Jun 6, 2024 - 3:23:39 PM
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2638 posts since 8/27/2008

PS If it's an acronym consider me annoyed.

Jun 6, 2024 - 3:43:31 PM

Quincy

Belgium

943 posts since 1/16/2021

quote:
Originally posted by Flat_the_3rd_n7th

"Why can't we all be sober?"


Hahaha my motto is sometimes the opposite I guess. 

Jun 6, 2024 - 3:51:36 PM

Quincy

Belgium

943 posts since 1/16/2021

quote:
Originally posted by Brian Wood

PS If it's an acronym consider me annoyed.


It's the name of a band. 

Jun 6, 2024 - 4:30:40 PM

2638 posts since 8/27/2008

quote:
Originally posted by Quincy
quote:
Originally posted by Brian Wood

PS If it's an acronym consider me annoyed.


It's the name of a band. 


Oh. I'll have to check them out since I don't know about them. Thanks!

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