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Feb 19, 2024 - 9:45:35 PM
506 posts since 6/26/2007

I just purchased a 22 1/2 in long fiddle. Is this a 7/8 fiddle?

Feb 20, 2024 - 5:52:17 AM
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2585 posts since 10/1/2008

Maybe, IDK.
Sounds like a 3/4 size. But then I have only seen on 7/8 size fiddle and I did not measure it. The owner did say that the length of the finger board was full length. R/

Feb 20, 2024 - 6:28:51 AM
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1403 posts since 3/1/2020

What are the back, neck, and stop lengths in mm?

Feb 20, 2024 - 7:51:03 AM

wilford

USA

506 posts since 6/26/2007

The length from the top of the button to the back edge adjacent to the end pin is 35 cm. From the tip of the scroll to the end of the fingerboard is 35.5 cm. Hope this helps.

Feb 20, 2024 - 11:02:07 AM
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Mobob

USA

241 posts since 10/1/2009

best measurements are length of back excluding button, and string length from nut to bridge. Typically, a 7/8 will be 345mm to 348mm LOB and around 320mm vibrating string.
I play a 7/8 fiddle due to hand issues, so I am familiar with the specs, hope this helps.

Feb 20, 2024 - 6:05:44 PM

wilford

USA

506 posts since 6/26/2007

Thanks, Bob. The LOB is 340 cm and vibrating string is 31.3 cm.

Feb 20, 2024 - 6:09:10 PM

wilford

USA

506 posts since 6/26/2007

quote:
Originally posted by UsuallyPickin

Maybe, IDK.
Sounds like a 3/4 size. But then I have only seen on 7/8 size fiddle and I did not measure it. The owner did say that the length of the finger board was full length. R/


I think you may be spot on here, Richard. Thanks

Feb 20, 2024 - 6:46:48 PM
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1403 posts since 3/1/2020

Neck and stop measurements would help. Going by LOB and VSL alone, the violin is closer to 3/4.

Another consideration is the spacing of the upper eyes of the ffs.

Although 13” is considered the standard for 3/4 violins, many older ones vary. Neck length can be the determining factor for a lot of players.

Feb 20, 2024 - 7:31:48 PM

wilford

USA

506 posts since 6/26/2007

Rich, would you kindly instruct me on how the neck is measured and what is meant by stop measurements? I have very little knowledge regarding differently-sized violins. Thanks in advance. As always, I very much appreciate your feedback.

Feb 21, 2024 - 7:00:53 AM
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1403 posts since 3/1/2020

quote:
Originally posted by wilford

Rich, would you kindly instruct me on how the neck is measured and what is meant by stop measurements? I have very little knowledge regarding differently-sized violins. Thanks in advance. As always, I very much appreciate your feedback.


Certainly. Neck length is measured from the top edge right against the neck root to the line for the nut where  it meets the fingerboard. For a full-size violin the standard is 130mm. 3/4 would be more like 122. 
 

Stop length is measured from the top edge to the bridge line. Full size is 195 generally and 3/4 is 183.

With a conventional setup with a neck length of 130 and a stop of 195, you end up right on target for the optimal VSL.

Spacing of the upper ff eyes determines the bridge size, so that makes a difference as well. There are some exceptional cases, but most violins are made to accommodate the standard width bridge for the size. 
 

I tend to count 7/8 size as 348-352, but the other measurements help me to ascertain the intentions of the maker/shop. 

Feb 21, 2024 - 2:14:23 PM

wilford

USA

506 posts since 6/26/2007

quote:
Originally posted by The Violin Beautiful
quote:
Originally posted by wilford

Rich, would you kindly instruct me on how the neck is measured and what is meant by stop measurements? I have very little knowledge regarding differently-sized violins. Thanks in advance. As always, I very much appreciate your feedback.


Certainly. Neck length is measured from the top edge right against the neck root to the line for the nut where  it meets the fingerboard. For a full-size violin the standard is 130mm. 3/4 would be more like 122. 
 

Stop length is measured from the top edge to the bridge line. Full size is 195 generally and 3/4 is 183.

With a conventional setup with a neck length of 130 and a stop of 195, you end up right on target for the optimal VSL.

Spacing of the upper ff eyes determines the bridge size, so that makes a difference as well. There are some exceptional cases, but most violins are made to accommodate the standard width bridge for the size. 
 

I tend to count 7/8 size as 348-352, but the other measurements help me to ascertain the intentions of the maker/shop. 


Thank you, Rich. 

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