Anybody play this? i think it’s one of those crossover tunes that made it from Ireland to America…
Michael Coleman plays it at like 200bpm (!) but I am playing it at my comfy speed with my “session mates” (aka backing track) from Online Academy of Irish Music (oaim.ie).
I am not as familiar with the OT / American folk playing of this tune, wonder how different it is! :-)
Oh, and HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
Edited by - NCnotes on 12/30/2023 14:42:39
And really liking this American banjo version!
Yep. It also goes by the name Old Mother Flannigan and Greenfields of Virginia. Melodies vary of course.
Sounds great.
We used to play that a lot at our session, seems to be a session staple at many American sessions.
Nice fiddling, NC! Sounds really, really Irish. I can hear similarities to Old Mother Flannagan, but wondering if OMF is just an Americanized version...to me, OMF is more a banjo-friendly tune than fiddle-friendly...Here's what I think of as OMF...definitely cut from the same cloth...played by a FHO member that used to be on here sometimes... youtu.be/nyq_T3wVpNg?si=IUeQM9Mfo1HZqtZU
Anyway...intereting how the tunes travel and evolve. I've never heard the Green Fields tune. thanks for sharing, and nice fiddling...and Happy New Year!
Edited by - groundhogpeggy on 12/30/2023 18:22:09
Cool, how I can kind of hear it there in Old Mother Flanagan! Thanks for sharing Peggy.
It’s just so interesting to me how you can hear the tune take on the American sound...I am always fascinated to compare the “crossover” tunes!
Beautiful!
And happy Newyear ofcourse!
Edited by - Quincy on 12/30/2023 23:43:22
NC...yes it is really fascinating! So many times I'm convinced there's only one Great Mother of all Fiddle Tunes...lol...they are all siblings and have so much in common. If we could find their mother, who knows what would happen?
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Originally posted by AlleghenyFrontYep. It also goes by the name Old Mother Flannigan and Greenfields of Virginia. Melodies vary of course.
and Shippensport and Shipping Port.
Thanks Anja and Gelukkig Nieuwe Jaar!
Thanks Carl, I am gonna check out! The Irish versions seem to have the same basic melody/rhythm and it’s fun to hear the “evolved” versions that grew in the USA. :-)
I like how it’s a happy bouncy tune and it’s called “green fields of America”…
like, over here there’s lots of food, farms, and Money :-)
I’m hearing a little “whiskey before breakfast”! Excellent tune well played!
Aw thank you Loy, and happy new year!
The tune that I know is very different. It's a slow air / ballad also known as the Green Fields of Canada:- a migrant song - really profound.
Hector - Is it this one? youtu.be/w6GrTL-u-cQ Samuel Bayard thought this song and the fiddle tune were related, with the song being older. You can hear that the melody is similar. I think my grandparents (my grandfather was from Ulster) had this 78 record in their Victrola.
quote:Originally posted by DougDHector - Is it this one? youtu.be/w6GrTL-u-cQ Samuel Bayard thought this song and the fiddle tune were related, with the song being older. You can hear that the melody is similar. I think my grandparents (my grandfather was from Ulster) had this 78 record in their Victrola.
Or maybe this one, which seems a different air: youtu.be/mRBw4XrJeeI
I am able to hum Green Fields of America slowly along with that first YouTube…
wow, could it really be the “Ancestor”?!
The second link (green fields of Canada) is so beautiful…and sad.
Also sung beautifully by Mary Dillon (Deanta).
For me it's hard to hear GFoA in there though...
Edited by - NCnotes on 01/01/2024 07:32:03
It's the second link I'm thinking about. Here's another version just dripping in sadness. youtu.be/YJogagbBeO8?si=oWn2oX5zhrqRoDLF
Some of the American versions are pretty complex... like Burl Hammons' Shippensport . Doc Roberts.
Samuel Bayard got a version called Mother Flannagan along the Mason Dixon Line that goes off from G major into an A modal thing . I used to have a cassette of some "generic" Irish tunes and it was done in 6/8.
Such a fun tune to play around with.
Yes I definitely heard GFoA pretty clearly in Shippensport!
Hector, That Uillean pipes version of “green fields of Canada” is quite stark and beautiful and sad…very Irish sounding.
I second what Peggy said, really Irish sounding, love that Banjo, and the fiddle playing is bob on, you would go down well in Liverpool in one of the many Irish bars, more than in Dublin lol, bit raucous but great fun.
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