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Sep 30, 2023 - 3:49:33 PM
99 posts since 4/4/2023

I've looked at this thread trying to identify a pattern I came up with for the last 4 beats of Arkansas Traveler as well as for a good bit of Billy in the Low Ground.

where D is a downbow on 1 note & u is 2 notes on a upbow. Might be like my diagram spells, a "dud," but it sure swings better than the old Nashville I used before.
What do you all think?

Sep 30, 2023 - 7:37:53 PM

14977 posts since 9/23/2009

Sorta like a shortened Georgia shuffle...I'd like to hear it ... can't picture in my brain where it's going in the Arkansas Traveller...looks interesting.

Sep 30, 2023 - 9:02:41 PM

3643 posts since 9/13/2009
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If I'm interpreting right, I would think that more syncopation (hemiola) than swing. Grouping three notes over 4/4. Some refer to as feel of 5 over 4, as created division or accent of 5.  (not to be confused with 5/4 meter)

A mnemonic is BAH-Deeah, BAH-Deeah, BAH-Deeah, BAH-Deeah, BAH! 
The Bah would be down bow, the deeah is upbow and slur. 

There are other ways to create that feel besides bow direction. It's fairly common rhythmic device, Juba hand and Scruggs style banjo rolls. There are also variations, longer or shorter that can be great fun.

Oct 1, 2023 - 6:14:54 PM
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6485 posts since 9/26/2008

I think the fella on the left does that instead of the Nashville Shuffle. He puts a little pulse in the upbow though.

Ketch and Woody

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