With the new bow, my E string sounds SO much nicer ... check out the high parts in part B!
Too lazy to connect the USB mic, but I think the iphone voice memo still kind of captures it.
This is "Kitty Lie Over", simple jig learned from flute player...
( sorry about the horrid cutoff...iphone started ringing...mom wanting to plan meals for our visit... :-)
Edited by - NCnotes on 07/11/2023 10:44:43
Great tone, and ornaments. I think a lot of people play jigs to fast, too be honest, and for me this is just the right speed for an audience to listen to, great stuff.
Aw thanks - I continue to work on it!
I recognize the tune; locally a session staple for 40 years; but by a different name. I just can't think of other name at the moment; perhaps due to one of those tunes so popular and frequently played, that nobody says the name, just play it.
Very nice as always, your sound is so clear and beautiful and seems so well thought over.
You are one kick ass fiddler with a kick ass bow if you ask me ;-)
I wish mom didn't interrupt hehe.
Good Stuff. Thanks.
alaskafiddler - AKA "The Praties are Dug and the Frost is all Over" etc.
The Kilfenora is what's popping in my mind that we call it. Then again, as it's usually played in a set, that might be called "the one that we play after the Kilfenora"
As per other discussion, my brain's memory card has gotten full and some file names or search function might be corrupted.
Can't you just replace the memory card? That's one thing I like about Android - you can use SD cards - I have almost 200 GB storage in this tablet and my phone.
My own brain's memory card seems still to have some space, but the sort and filter functions don't always work. I have some friends I've known for a very long time, and sometimes its hard to focus on the right time period.
I was mocked on thesession.org recently for suggesting that 'Kittie' is the same tune as 'Praties' - listening now to NC's recording, I've come 'round to the view that they are different enough to be considered different tunes (though similar enough that the same lyrics get put to each), rather than variants of one tune.
she plays it in a nice set of 3 tunes, but especially recommended I learn this one ( common session tune) and we played it slow a few times…then I went home and looked up the notes to double check myself, ha ha.
On the session.org it has alternate names “kilfenora” and “frost is all over” (and weirdly, “Adrian meechan’s hangover”!?what?). This is why we can’t remember tune names!!
…With some less popular tunes I gave up and I say, “do you know this?” and play the first few notes. I always get a little burst of joy if people just start playing along, that’s a Yes! (Otherwise it’s a nope, try again…:-)
And, At moms house now, good eating! Meal planning phone call totally worth it, ha ha…
Mom and dad are getting older…these days feel so precious to us all…
Just catching up with your media contributions. You need to make more!
That really sounded great, NC!
The Fiddlers Companion is not too helpful as to the exact lineage of this tune. But awhile back while wondering about it I came across this recording of a gentleman who touches all the bases: youtu.be/6Z3IZY5gRRc
Edited by - DougD on 07/23/2023 20:24:37
Thanks for the find Doug, that is the tune, sounding great on the pipes!!
(With yet another name? Phew)
Thank you for encouragement, everybody :-).
( If it doesn’t sound like Mozart, I figure I am making progress…:-) still too much vibrato, but I figured out that voice memo recording exaggerates the slightest wobble…in real life, doesn’t sound so vibrato-ish!
Forgot to add, I played this at session yesterday and somebody sang the words afterwards
(I gotta go google, what's a Pratie?).
OK...a Pratie is a Potato.
Kitty = a Cat...or Kitty = a person named "Kitty"?
And why does she/it have to Lie Over against the Wall?
These tunes are fascinating...coming down through time to us...
Edited by - NCnotes on 07/24/2023 10:13:48
That business of lying 'next to the wall' comes up in one or two or more old songs. I don't think it has any deep implications; I assume that it would be typical for the female of a couple to take the protected side of the bed, next to the wall, while the male would take the protective outer spot. That's the way I've always arranged it, anyway ... !
I think I saw somewhere that those words might just be a mnemonic to help players remember the tune, so I wouldn't read too much into them. The singer does slip from real words to lilting, so that might make sense. It is sort of a song of perseverance though - "Keep calm and carry on." Kettle boils over, fill it again - Soldier husband "dies on the ocean," just find another one. That last verse is a cozy picture of domestic contentment.
As far as "lying next to the wall," that's just not a subject usually discussed between older men and younger married women here at the FHO. Its also mentioned in this old song - pretty clear what the "keeper of the game" is afrer: youtu.be/zKseqHNJejs
Interesting interpretation (and clarified by the song, thanks Doug!)
So I guess Kitty is not a feline, but is probably short for Kathleen or Katherine...
And as for “lying over next to the wall”, I will keep FHO G-rated by just leaving this link, ha... https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=146186
so I found this jig I learned, has multiple names...
and the words are not just about potatoes!
Edited by - NCnotes on 07/24/2023 19:49:43
Lyrics suggest another "Don't fraternize with the enemy" song.
What'll you do if you married a soldier... etc.... Ditto Ditto....If he Died on the Ocean.
Then.... The praities are dug and the frost is all over. Maybe alluding to the best (productive) years of a woman being over?
Kitty lie over ....Another dark song, from dark and different times...
A large percentage of the old songs, and tunes have a very dark past. i remember posting an English jig called "Paddington Fair"... i knew there was no fair in Paddington. Turns out it was what folk called the revelries that took place once a month all along Oxford Street, on hanging day at Tyburn. But the tune is a really jolly little English jig....Different times.
Yep “hanging day” used to be great entertainment (urgh…)
I learned a lovely tune “battle of aughrim” and found out it was actually a very brutal battle which left thousands of dead bodies strewn on hills slippery with blood….
It’s a nice tune, but I did feel a bit differently about it after finding out the history.
I've learned to be skeptical of explanations of what old lyrics, nursery rhymes, sayings, etc., are "really about" ... although, I generally assume that the term "battle" indicates something that wasn't entirely pleasant ... !
I know the tune from Planxty's album 'Cold Blow And The Rainy Night'.
There's no fiddle on it though, just uileann pipes and mandolin, bouzouki & bodhran I believe
I believe that's where I first heard it - or maybe from The Chieftains. But I just stumbled onto a rendition by The Clancy Brothers & Tommy Makem that would have been from some years earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juXv2ETlDkM.
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