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May 24, 2023 - 9:53:18 AM
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I'm learning Saint Anne's Reel.
It's such a great tune and everybody says it's a "crossover" tune, which is cool...

I am interested to hear it played in OT or bluegrass style (is it played in bluegrass).
Are there any recommendations for what players to listen to/the version that rules all versions, etc? :-)

Thanks! :-)

May 24, 2023 - 10:21:43 AM

DougD

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Its a Canadian tune originally. Are you looking for a good version, Canadian style?

May 24, 2023 - 10:27:56 AM
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DougD

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Well, I guess this is as good as any: youtu.be/L5bEktwfAL8

May 24, 2023 - 10:32:25 AM

DougD

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And there's always this old classic: youtu.be/XzAzShZVw_g

May 24, 2023 - 11:10:24 AM
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Thanks Doug, those were great!

I'm surprised because it really doesn't sound so different...
the basic tune/rhythm is there, with more of a driving beat/doublestops in Patti's version...
and the Don Messer version is apparently the Classic/Famous version, thanks!

( And love that in Patti's video, she dedicated to someone's 65th anniversary/91st birthday! :-)

Edited by - NCnotes on 05/24/2023 11:14:27

May 24, 2023 - 11:20:25 AM
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Erockin

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Patti is FANTASTIC! Sheesh. Wish my fiddle was close...lol

May 24, 2023 - 1:37:49 PM
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A quick counting showed 19 members playing the tune in the Hangout's MP3 library.. Check them out.

May 24, 2023 - 1:46:33 PM
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Thanks Lee, I shall!!

update:
1st version I listened to on list, Gayle Hopson's version is so good, and interesting!
I doubt that I could get away with such variations playing in the Irish session (people giving me curious glances) but love his playing.
https://www.fiddlehangout.com/myhangout/media-player/audio_player2.asp?musicid=3912&archived=

Edited by - NCnotes on 05/24/2023 13:52:27

May 24, 2023 - 1:54:50 PM
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DougD

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TuneWeaver - I was looking in the tune archive ("L") the other day and noticed something, and I see the same thing here, which is how long ago most of these tunes were posted, by people no longer active. It reminded me of the old days on this site.
Sorry for the interruption, NCnotes.
PS - That version is Texas "contest" style - still recognizable though. That tune is popular all over the place. I learned it just as a "standard" tune growing up in New England. Lots of interchange up there with French Canada and the Maritimes.

Edited by - DougD on 05/24/2023 14:02:21

May 24, 2023 - 1:57:41 PM
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No worries!
Over here, listening to Petefiddle's 120bpm version! :-D

(Yes and Gayle Hopson's St Anne's reel was 14 years ago.....)

Edited by - NCnotes on 05/24/2023 13:58:17

May 24, 2023 - 2:01:37 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by DougD

TuneWeaver - I was looking in the tune archive ("L") the other day and noticed something, and I see the same thing here, which is how long ago most of these tunes were posted, by people no longer active. It reminded me of the old days on this site.
Sorry for the interruption, NCnotes.

 

. The tunes posted do go back a ways.. It is interesting to note how the Hangout has changed over the years.. I still miss Pogo and a few of the others.. I remember when I was Afraid to comment on his topics.. It was so intimidating..!

May 24, 2023 - 2:04:57 PM
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DougD

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NCnotes - I think petefiddle's is the only recent post. Don't forget to look under "St." too!

May 24, 2023 - 2:26:54 PM
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In the end it doesn't matter when a tune was played!!...Having said that.....Some youngsters DO seem to take a tune and give it new meaning..Let me look around and I'll bet I can find a few new interpretations of tune.. (would make a good new topic, don't you think?)

May 25, 2023 - 4:56:40 AM
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Erockin

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Thanks for the inspiration on this one! Last night I figured out the A part pretty good by ear so far and faking through the B now.
I don't have a decent enough right hand bow to flow but still fun nonetheless.

May 25, 2023 - 7:07:26 AM
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So nice to think that we are both learning this tune at the same time! :-)
Thought of you last night because I thought you would enjoy this bluegrass version by @fiddlinsteudel (I think fiddlingsteudel still drops in once in a while):

fiddlehangout.com/myhangout/me...archived=

I was really enjoying the taking apart/breakdown/put together of the tune that they did (and their name "Colonels of Truth" LOL).
( PS - Towards end, you'll hear fiddler come in at wrong time and say "Sorry!" :-)
That kind of cured my Red Button anxiety...if they're willing to post that, then I should just relax! )

The media library has so much good stuff, I enjoyed listening to all the original personal versions of St/Saint Anne's. :-)

Edited by - NCnotes on 05/25/2023 07:21:34

May 25, 2023 - 10:33:12 PM
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I must have over a dozen transcriptions of this tune on my newly acquired tablet, all slightly different versions.

I run through each and this inspires me to create my own variations and improvisations.

May 26, 2023 - 8:59:30 AM
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When we get drop-ins from the other folk traditions, St Anne's is often the tune our session leader will suggest! Whatever style they usually play, and whether they are on mando, banjo, guitar, fiddle...everybody seems to know it!
I am kind of crazy about how it sounds on flatpicking guitar actually.

May 27, 2023 - 5:41:29 AM
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Earworm

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I like this J.P. Fraley version - I think it's a little less "frilly" than some of them, and I like his style. This recording is on Slippery Hill, and it's downloadable. https://www.slippery-hill.com/content/saint-annes-reel-1

May 27, 2023 - 6:17 AM
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RobBob

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I learned it from this guy when he came to Brandywine back in the 70's.

May 27, 2023 - 6:17:56 AM
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DougD

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That's a good one. JP certainly had a nice way with a tune. Here are a couple photos from the workshop where he played that


May 27, 2023 - 7:25:22 AM
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Enjoyed listening to those!

(I also wonder, why does bluegrass always end with that "shave and a haircut" bit, where did that come from? Was it a famous BG player, or...? But I can ask in a separate thread :-)

May 27, 2023 - 8:14:29 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by NCnotes

Enjoyed listening to those!

(I also wonder, why does bluegrass always end with that "shave and a haircut" bit, where did that come from? Was it a famous BG player, or...? But I can ask in a separate thread :-)


found this: The first known occurrence of the tune is from an 1899 Charles Hale song, "At a Darktown Cakewalk", while it wasn't until a 1939 song (with Milton Berle) "Shave and a Haircut - Shampoo", which used the notes near the end, that the brief tune had lyrics.

May 27, 2023 - 6:47:46 PM
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The 'shave and haircut' ending is called a 'Tag' in bluegrass music. This lets the band know that the tune is ending, as does a 'kick off' indicates the beginning of a tune/song. When I played in a rock band, we had fun playing the 'cha, cha, cha' tag/ending to appropriate songs. In bluegrass there is the 'single tag' which is of a two-bar length and the 'double tag' being of four bars. Tags are often played over the tonic chord with a V7-I resolution in the last bar. Many 'tags' are borrowed from other tunes, a common one is the ending of 'Arkansas Traveller,' but any tune with an interesting ending could be used as a tag, such as 'Turkey in the Straw' with a single or double tag. Many players make up their own tags and much of the time they're made up on the spot.

Jun 2, 2023 - 8:19:47 PM
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The Riendeau family did St Annes

youtube.com/watch?v=lQj_aCGnNdQ

at about 19:40; they are Canadian I believe

Jun 3, 2023 - 9:15:44 AM

Old Scratch

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dogmageek Now, that's my kind of fiddling! Thanks for the link.

There's obviously a warp in the record at the beginning, as noted in the notes, but it's pretty good after that. Well, I'm only half-way through it, but - so far, so good.

Jun 3, 2023 - 10:41:53 AM
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DougD

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A little thread drift, but if you like the Riendeau family, you'll probably like Louis Beaudoin: youtu.be/3pBvilwrWm4
I'm sure he knew St. Anne's but don't know if its in that program. More out there too.

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