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Mar 29, 2023 - 12:40:57 PM
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341 posts since 6/21/2007

so while looking up on YouTube for an obscure recording; I ran across an interview with R. Crumb. (most boomers know who I am talking about.) And he was discussing his love of music from the 20s and 30s. And while hunting up records, he ran across a record by Janis Joplin in San Francisco coffeehouse in 1962. Doing acoustic folk blues. And how he preferred it to her later blues rock. Take a listen, see what you think.   

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qKsxc2gMNvs&pp=ygUXamFuaXMgam9wbGluIGZvbGsgbXVzaWM%3D

Mar 29, 2023 - 1:18:58 PM
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DougD

USA

11232 posts since 12/2/2007

Yes, she started out as a "folkie," as did many other rockers from that era. Here she is at the Newport Folk Festival in 1968. photos.com/featured/janis-jopl...gahr.html
Extra points if you can identify the future FHO member lounging in the background.

Mar 29, 2023 - 6:38:52 PM

Old Scratch

Canada

1128 posts since 6/22/2016

There are a few of those early recordings on youtube - and they're wonderful. And I think I'm with R. Crumb - the later stuff can be spectacular, but it's the early stuff I would keep coming back to.

Mar 29, 2023 - 7:18:16 PM
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342 posts since 12/2/2013

As much as I like her, at this stage Janis can't hold a candle to the QUEEN!

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lA_OViZXPFMFvxnqCzFNLfF4SmG1G0DWs

Mar 29, 2023 - 7:20:16 PM
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5805 posts since 7/1/2007

I was listening to the same stuff as Janis in 1963, digging through junk shops for old 78s, and listening to early jazz and blues, and learning to play it. This doesn't have anything to do with fiddles, but regarding the subject at hand, I had the pleasure of attending one of the best concerts I've ever seen in my life in KC, on a par with the Time Jumpers. the Stones, Segovia in a small hall, etc. Tuba Skinny is the best traditional jazz band I have ever seen, and I've seen a lot of them in New Orleans. Erica Green gets it and is as good as any of the 1920s singers and the band itself is absolutely first rate, and I've been listening to historic New Orleans bands for 50 years.

Mar 29, 2023 - 8:15:16 PM

342 posts since 12/2/2013

If they only had a real tenor banjo player.

Mar 29, 2023 - 10:22:48 PM

Old Scratch

Canada

1128 posts since 6/22/2016

Tuba Skinny is great, from what I've seen on ytube.

Mar 29, 2023 - 11:03:04 PM
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DougD

USA

11232 posts since 12/2/2007

Quite a few Tuba Skinny fans here. KCFiddles - I haven't been keeping up, but has Erika Lewis changed her name?
Richard - In some YouTube videos they have a tenor banjo, sometimes two! The band personnel has changed over time, and people sometimes sit in on the street. But why do you think they need a tenor banjo? There are other possibilities - on Louis Armstrong's great Hot Five recordings Johnny St. Cyr is playing a guitar banjo, as Don Vappie sometimes does these days. Years ago in New Orleans I spent an evening in Preservation Hall watching the old line jazz guys. I started out standing in the back and moved up after each show until I was in the front row, and talked to some of the musicians afterwards. Manuel Sayles was playing a plectrum banjo, and when I asked him why he said he preferred the chord voicings, which are very different. They seemed to be gettig along just fine.

Mar 30, 2023 - 4:10:05 AM

14410 posts since 9/23/2009

I'm thinking the word, traditional, at least in music as well as many other things, is an evolving concept.

Mar 30, 2023 - 5:41:22 AM

342 posts since 12/2/2013

It's actually not about the type of banjo, it's how you play it. The player in the vid is playing like a guitar player, no triplet slides up the neck, no inversions of chords, no walks, no diminished chords,no dynamics, etc.

Mar 30, 2023 - 6:21:14 AM

5805 posts since 7/1/2007

quote:
Originally posted by DougD

Quite a few Tuba Skinny fans here. KCFiddles - I haven't been keeping up, but has Erika Lewis changed her name?
Richard - In some YouTube videos they have a tenor banjo, sometimes two! The band personnel has changed over time, and people sometimes sit in on the street. But why do you think they need a tenor banjo? There are other possibilities - on Louis Armstrong's great Hot Five recordings Johnny St. Cyr is playing a guitar banjo, as Don Vappie sometimes does these days. Years ago in New Orleans I spent an evening in Preservation Hall watching the old line jazz guys. I started out standing in the back and moved up after each show until I was in the front row, and talked to some of the musicians afterwards. Manuel Sayles was playing a plectrum banjo, and when I asked him why he said he preferred the chord voicings, which are very different. They seemed to be gettig along just fine.

 


I don't know where that came from. I looked up her name to make sure and get it right, and still came up with the wrong name!  Gettin old, I guess! I saw them at Knuckleheads in Kansas City, and they're 10 times better live than they are on video. The venue is good, too. I talked to some of the band members after the show, Musicians seem to like it when you listen and  understand a little, and appreciate what they are doing. They are clearly doing it for the love of the music. I know how hard it is for my friends to keep a great band together for years, and I'll do anything I can to help Tuba Skinny prosper.

Next up:  Jason Anick and Rhythm Future Quartet in Illinois in May. Only a six hour drive, and worth it!

Mar 30, 2023 - 7:20 AM
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14410 posts since 9/23/2009

whoops...I meant for my response above to be in the other thread about traditional ... hmmm...must be one of the three or four times in my life i've been mistaken...lolololol.

Mar 30, 2023 - 7:38:54 AM
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11048 posts since 3/19/2009

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Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

whoops...I meant for my response above to be in the other thread about traditional ... hmmm...must be one of the three or four times in my life i've been mistaken...lolololol.


I always preceed my comment with the phrase.. "this may be a little off topic, but....."  works every time!!

Mar 30, 2023 - 8:27:57 AM
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2411 posts since 8/27/2008

quote:
Originally posted by DougD


Extra points if you can identify the future FHO member lounging in the background.


It's true. That's Janis Joplin sitting in the foreground of my picture, taken when I was 17.

Mar 30, 2023 - 10:11:53 AM

Old Scratch

Canada

1128 posts since 6/22/2016

So - she "photo-bombed" you, did she? The nerve of some people ... !

(Just messin' around; I still remember the full story).

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