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Oct 4, 2022 - 6:50:57 AM
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Took several attempts but I think I have figured out how to keep the squirrels or racoons from raiding the bird feeders. It's been working for about a month now.

Now I've got to figure out how to keep the ducks off our patio and out from under the birdfeeders. They have trampled the flowers and left their "crap" on the patio. Yeap. I know. I could move the birdfeeders. But, my better half says - that's not an option.

First attempt - short fences around the flower bed. Second, was to build another birdfeeder away from the patio. Maybe they will learn that they won't get harassed as much down there.

Have you had to deal with these kinds of problems? Any ideas?


Oct 4, 2022 - 8:43:41 AM

13888 posts since 9/23/2009

We have squirrel proof feeders that we bought that way...works great...they close up by weight so the squirrels can't get them to open up. Then we made peace with the squirrels a few years ago by getting them their own feeding station and making sure they have something there most of the time. Fencing keeps the rabbits and groundhogs out, but we really have issues with raccoons...we are just outside of ohio urban sprawl and the ohio critter controls trap raccoons and let them out in our woods here...so they're always a problem...tons of them. They ate our grapes and pawpaws...and they do tend to grab tomatoes just as they are starting to turn...irritating...we trap them and take them to the river sometimes, but can't really keep up with the population.

Oct 4, 2022 - 10:17:21 AM
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carlb

USA

2469 posts since 2/2/2008

quote:
Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

We have squirrel proof feeders that we bought that way...works great...they close up by weight so the squirrels can't get them to open up.


I use one of those as well. However,  for about five years, there was one squirrel who figured out how to defeat the squirrel proofing. She,or he, would get on the feeder and hang on,  closing access to the seed. Then it would take one paw and put its claw in one of the plastic windows (i.e. between the plastic and the metal). It would then take the weight off its other paw and gobble a bunch of seeds. Then rest, eat a few and repeat. I figured it would teach its kids but I've never had another squirrel defeat the feeder like this one did.

Also, location of the feeder is important. Morning doves usually hangout below feeders. However, sometimes the will perch on top line from  which the feeder hangs. A hawk picked one off that way and now I keep my feeders in areas where a hawk would not have a good path to swoop down and grab a bird at the feeder.

Oct 4, 2022 - 12:29:01 PM

13888 posts since 9/23/2009

Our grackles do that same thing with putting one foot up to distribute their weight in such a way as to open the seed...lol. I guess they're just too heavy otherwise. Interesting you had a genius squirrel figure that out...so far our squirrels haven't. During bad winter weather we have a regular feeder that anybody can get into...raccoons, squirrels, deer, big birds...we just feed whoever's needing something during the bad weather. But in good weather we use the "squirrel proof " (except for your squirrel...lol) feeders mainly. Sometimes we scatter seed on the ground for mourning doves or anybody else who looks hungry...crows come around sometmes, etc.

Oct 5, 2022 - 6:02:32 AM

6063 posts since 8/7/2009

The squirrels learned quick how to defeat the "squirrel proof feeders". That never really slowed them down. If you look close enough in the picture - you will see that all of the feeders are "squirrel proof". Good idea, but the local squirrels don't have any problems with them.

The raccoons would climb up, knock the feeders down, and then drag them across the yard, open them up (top) and have a snack.

We used a suspended stove pipe on an earlier "Shepard's hook" - but the squirrels jumped up high enough to get to the top. ...and sure looked ugly.

The new feeders are built form 3/4" polished steel pipe (not conduit)10 foot long (2' in the ground).

Then I got an inspiration from watching a Youtube video. This didn't work for him, but I adapted his idea to the new support system. This is the trick that finally made it work.  I cut 6" long sleeves from 1-1/2" PVC pipe and put several between the uprights and the fitting that hold the suspended feeders (see picture). The squirrels are still able to climb up the uprights, but they can't negotiate the 6" PVC sleeves. The roll on them, and down they come. And the feeders are too high to jump up and grab them.

And, of course the raccoons can't climb the 3/4" pipe.

It has worked so far. I'm so proud!  laugh

The ducks are next...

Edited by - tonyelder on 10/05/2022 06:12:43

Oct 5, 2022 - 1:06:54 PM

13888 posts since 9/23/2009

Lol. Tony, you're doin' good...getting into an outsmarting match with any of those critters is unbelievably difficult...lol. I say from experience...lol.

Oct 5, 2022 - 2:47:19 PM

668 posts since 6/11/2019

This may sound rough, but we used to keep crows out of the corn by shooting one and hanging it upside down by a leg. That worked so good, it was my job as a kid to get up before school, climb up in the hay loft (only square bales then), and sniper the summer's crow. They were smart, though, cause they would notice the loft door cracked open and spook away. You had to leave it open a couple days to trick them.

LOL--Maybe the same for ducks? HOA probably wouldn't appreciate that, let alone your wife.

Oct 5, 2022 - 3:00:44 PM

10524 posts since 3/19/2009

The smart thing to do is to do what works with bug traps.. If the bug trap is on your property, the bugs come to YOUR property because they are attracted to the trap.. However if the bug trap is on a neighbor's property.. you are free of bugs.. Same with feeder/gardens... Just let your neighbors do all the work and you can sit, vermin free, in your yard and watch them in the neighbor's yard.laugh

Oct 5, 2022 - 7:09:22 PM
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Fiddler

USA

4216 posts since 6/22/2007

We grease the feeder poles with vegetable oil. While sipping wine or beer, enjoy the show.

Good luck on your endeavors. It's a losing battle!

Oct 6, 2022 - 6:06:34 AM

6063 posts since 8/7/2009

quote:
Originally posted by Flat_the_3rd_n7th

This may sound rough, but we used to keep crows out of the corn by shooting one and hanging it upside down by a leg. That worked so good, it was my job as a kid to get up before school, climb up in the hay loft (only square bales then), and sniper the summer's crow. They were smart, though, cause they would notice the loft door cracked open and spook away. You had to leave it open a couple days to trick them.

LOL--Maybe the same for ducks? HOA probably wouldn't appreciate that, let alone your wife.


Ducks. They are persistent critters! I run them off - and 5 minutes later - they come right back. But I'm not giving up.  I've thought of a few other things to try.

The thing that amazes me is - they seem to have lost their fear of humans.  I can almost get within arms reach sometimes - before they realize that I'm there to run them off. Then they fly about 10 feet away, land, and then slooowwwly waddle off - maybe.

Our little miniature dachshund has a great time chasing them though (and the squirrels). She cornered one of the ducks last week - it was fun to watch - the duck was freaking out and she couldn't figure out what to do next. Comical. The duck finally flew away. I think Ellie was relieved. 

Oct 11, 2022 - 5:58:01 AM

6063 posts since 8/7/2009

Watched another squirrel try to rob the feeders yesterday... He climbed up the top, paused, then started to walk the upright... and down he went. Still working.

I fenced in the area under the feeders - didn't work - the ducks still got in. Then I filled up the area inside the fence with empty nursery pots. After about a week, they are starting to get the picture. They can't get in, so why bother coming up on the patio. It's not pretty, but - hopefully - it is only temporary.

The weather has certainly changed, so the ducks will be gone soon.

Oct 12, 2022 - 8:55:25 AM

13888 posts since 9/23/2009

i thought about getting ducks, since I can't eat chicken eggs...but we have a really nice coop Mike made for the chickens we used to have...but ducks don't really like chicken coops...but I could eat the duck eggs, unless I turn out to be allergic to them too...and we don't have a pond or anything...so...well, maybe not.

Oct 12, 2022 - 11:07:18 AM
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10524 posts since 3/19/2009

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Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

i thought about getting ducks, since I can't eat chicken eggs...but we have a really nice coop Mike made for the chickens we used to have...but ducks don't really like chicken coops...but I could eat the duck eggs, unless I turn out to be allergic to them too...and we don't have a pond or anything...so...well, maybe not.


Look up Indian Runner Ducks... 200 eggs a year and don't need a pond..

Oct 12, 2022 - 12:10 PM
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The one good thing I can say about the ducks - they seem to be keeping the Canadian Geese out of the yard. The geese outnumber the ducks 80 to 5. (no exaggeration).

But - the geese leave their mess in the yard. The ducks are brave and get up on the patio.

In reality - I like the ducks ok - as long as they stay in the yard - off the patio and out of the garden.

Oct 12, 2022 - 12:39:23 PM

13888 posts since 9/23/2009

Well When we had ducks they stayed at the pond...since we have no pond...I'm pretty sure even if they don't need a pond they won't sleep in a chicken coop...they sleep in the ground in the bushes, don't they? Besides...I used to clean up the chicken coop every day...I like a clean chicken coop that doesn't smell like anything but pine shavings...duck poop is just uncleanable...lol...wouldn't want to have that in our coop...it's up on posts off the ground...so...it has a floor to be kept clean...hmmm...duck fat is nice for cooking...I'll have to look up how we could do it in our current setup, if possible.

Oct 12, 2022 - 12:41:37 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by tonyelder

The one good thing I can say about the ducks - they seem to be keeping the Canadian Geese out of the yard. The geese outnumber the ducks 80 to 5. (no exaggeration).

But - the geese leave their mess in the yard. The ducks are brave and get up on the patio.

In reality - I like the ducks ok - as long as they stay in the yard - off the patio and out of the garden.


On more than one occasion while traveling in Nicaragua, I saw roosters....tied to a brick!!!  They could get around to eat but not to attack or come up to a porch... !! (I have a patent pending on this idea)  This could work on ducks...unless they were to get into a pond where they would promptly drown!!

Oct 12, 2022 - 12:49:12 PM

668 posts since 6/11/2019

Tony, I looked up your location. If you're still there, you're practically an Arkie. I'm surprised the ducks would migrate out of there much unless it's over to the rice fields to join the BIG party in December-January.

Oct 12, 2022 - 12:51:37 PM

668 posts since 6/11/2019

Those were fighting roosters. They do that around here. Illegal to fight anymore, but they raise them, and sell them to fight over the line on the reservations in Oklahoma.

Oct 12, 2022 - 2:27:27 PM

6063 posts since 8/7/2009

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Originally posted by Flat_the_3rd_n7th

Tony, I looked up your location. If you're still there, you're practically an Arkie. I'm surprised the ducks would migrate out of there much unless it's over to the rice fields to join the BIG party in December-January.


Yeap. 5 minutes north and we are in TN. A left turn after 15 minutes more and we are in AR.

Oct 12, 2022 - 2:32:49 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by TuneWeaver
quote:
Originally posted by tonyelder

The one good thing I can say about the ducks - they seem to be keeping the Canadian Geese out of the yard. The geese outnumber the ducks 80 to 5. (no exaggeration).

But - the geese leave their mess in the yard. The ducks are brave and get up on the patio.

In reality - I like the ducks ok - as long as they stay in the yard - off the patio and out of the garden.


On more than one occasion while traveling in Nicaragua, I saw roosters....tied to a brick!!!  They could get around to eat but not to attack or come up to a porch... !! (I have a patent pending on this idea)  This could work on ducks...unless they were to get into a pond where they would promptly drown!!


I have a few extra cider blocks. hmmm....   "...here ducky, ducky."

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