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Aug 11, 2022 - 2:37:30 AM
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Aug 11, 2022 - 4:07:59 AM

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Wow...interesting! Nice fiddling, and it was kinda cool how you played it so modal...almost gives it a Calico tuning / Black Moutain tuning sound. Pretty cool!

Aug 11, 2022 - 7:36:29 AM
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I fear what you call "modal" is poor intonation around F# and G, but it's not altogether unpleasant so ... Thanks for the kind words @groundhogpeggy

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Edited by - goatberry_jam on 08/11/2022 07:39:18

Aug 11, 2022 - 11:16:54 AM
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At I'm hearing is not F#/G related, but instead you don't seem to be reaching high enough for the A on the E string. IF what you're doing is playing a G there, then I'd say that note is out of place. At first I thought you were playing St Anne's Reel because of that note.
Otherwise, the bowing seems fine for that tune.

Aug 11, 2022 - 11:20:24 AM
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DougD

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Peggy, have you ever heard Henry Reed play this tune? loc.gov/item/afcreed000177/
Its in D, and in the A part it goes to a C natural, so it really is "modal," at least for that phrase. He was unaccompanied, but I think guitar players have gone to C and then G, or just stayed on the C.
As an aside, Henry Reed not only had a remarkable memory for tunes, but also where and from whom he learned them. On the recording he says he learned this tune as a little boy from "Teets show" and a few years ago I got curious about that. Turns out that "Teets show" was a small regional circus based in eastern Kentucky. Its origin was with Nicholas Teets, who rode into Morgan county on horseback, performing a Punch and Judy puppet show, married and raised a family, who expanded the show. These traveling shows often had a small band, who doubled as performers or in other jobs. Here's an article about him:
findagrave.com/memorial/236834...las-teets
Nicholas Teets died in 1884, the year Henry Reed was born, but his wife and sons carried on. Here's a photo of I guess a couple of them with a giant poster.


Aug 11, 2022 - 1:53:48 PM
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GB Jam...well it sounded like a creative take on it to me. I mean...when I play the tune, Groundhog, I modal it up because I just like it that way. I liked what you did with OTWaterfall.

Doug...really interesting...yes it does have a modal part to it where the C works well on the guitar. The Teets' show sounds pretty cool. Thanks for all the history on this.

I do remember traveling circuit preachers down in KY...traveling on horseback and preaching from up there while throwing pamphlets down about how bad you're gonna hate spending eternity in the raging fires that never cease...lol. I guess that's sorta off topic...but...well...there is that.

Aug 11, 2022 - 10:37:33 PM

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Originally posted by DougD

Peggy, have you ever heard Henry Reed play this tune? loc.gov/item/afcreed000177/
Its in D, and in the A part it goes to a C natural, so it really is "modal," at least for that phrase. He was unaccompanied, but I think guitar players have gone to C and then G, or just stayed on the C.
As an aside, Henry Reed not only had a remarkable memory for tunes, but also where and from whom he learned them. On the recording he says he learned this tune as a little boy from "Teets show" and a few years ago I got curious about that. Turns out that "Teets show" was a small regional circus based in eastern Kentucky. Its origin was with Nicholas Teets, who rode into Morgan county on horseback, performing a Punch and Judy puppet show, married and raised a family, who expanded the show. These traveling shows often had a small band, who doubled as performers or in other jobs. Here's an article about him:
findagrave.com/memorial/236834...las-teets
Nicholas Teets died in 1884, the year Henry Reed was born, but his wife and sons carried on. Here's a photo of I guess a couple of them with a giant poster.


Those kinds of traveling shows often included ladies showing their 'teets'. I imagine that Nicholas was oft accused of false advertising laugh
 

Aug 13, 2022 - 6:01:25 AM

DougD

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Considering the time and place, I doubt it.

Aug 13, 2022 - 6:26:29 AM

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Most mountain folk in SE KY are pretty shy and that probably wouldn't be a thing...lol...or at least that's how it still was when we left in 1989...a century after the Teets fellers' shows.

I ran across an oral history that I was selected to do the music for back in the early 80s...the other day I was "thumbing" through some thumb drives looking for videos/youtubes I'd lost a while back and ran across the sound track for a film strip the oral history project did...somehow it ended up on a thumb drive. I'm probably not supposed to have it...the film strip is in some state archives somewhere...lol...I don't know where...anyhow I thought about digging that up again (have to look through a whole pile of thumb drives and don't know when I'd get the time...I mean, we are just all stuck in a big concrete project that's gonna take forever and have to work fast on days when there's no rain...lol) and putting it on youtube...don't know if I'd get in trouble or not, but heck, it's sitting on some dusty shelf somewhere rotting away in darkness...lol...so...why not. Don't know what made me think of this...I'm way off topic here, sorry.

Edited by - groundhogpeggy on 08/13/2022 06:29:07

Aug 13, 2022 - 7:44:10 AM
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DougD

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Peggy, was there a point to that long ramble? I read it thinking there might be, but I couldn't seem to find it.

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Aug 13, 2022 - 11:55:06 AM
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No, Doug, I rarely have a actual point.

Aug 13, 2022 - 1:16:25 PM

DougD

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Well I knew that, but I thought you were going to dírect us to something in the oral history project, or at least your music for it.

Aug 13, 2022 - 5:10:22 PM
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Old Scratch

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groundhogpeggy "I'm probably not supposed to have it..." Better be careful - I hear they're cracking down on that kind of thing lately ...!

Aug 13, 2022 - 6:12:32 PM
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...maybe I oughta send it through the plumbing before they come a-lookin for me...

Edited by - groundhogpeggy on 08/13/2022 18:15:15

Aug 13, 2022 - 8:03:29 PM

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Oh yeah, Doug...didn't see your other post...yes, I was saying that the film strip with reel-to-reel sound track of the oral history is in some state archives and somehow I ended up with a copy of the audio on thumb drive...which didn 't even exist back when we made the film strip. So...I was thinking maybe to put up the audio portion onto youtube...it was a very interesting oral history, where they went through the hollers and backwoods to interview very old ladies about how they were taught to raise children...home remedies and just how to handle all the challenges of raising kids and stuff. From there they found some old retired school teachers to read a script they'd compiled from the stories they collected in the field...school teachers were the only ones who could read from that generation. It was really interesting. I wanted to put up that audio on youtube...found the thumb drive it was on again and my computer says it cannot be played...lol...so...there ya go. Technology has done it to me again. It would be an interesting thing I think. They didn't tell me I could do the music until about 24 hours when I was supposed to run to the recording studio to put that music on. So...well I was working full time and had homework to go through with daughter and supper to cook and all that...I had the script to go by and stayed up all night figuring out music, then ran to work and then to the studio after to hurry and get that on...lol...so...it wasn't my best, but I wanted to do it so bad I just did what I could.

Anyhow I guess it's impossible to get them onto youtube because my computer can't play the files. So...yeah...no need looking for a point. I think I just thought of it, just remembering back how stuff was when we left in 1989...and I remembered having done this in the early part of the decade...one of my rare opportunites in music. And GBJam...I'm so sorry to have hijacked your Over the Waterfall thread.

Aug 14, 2022 - 8:14:35 AM
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DougD

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Peggy, I'm not going to get involved in you computer battles anymore, but I will say that there's a difference between not being able to read a thumb drive and not being able to play an audio file. Also USB flash drives and SD cards are not meant for long term storage, and shouldn't be relied on for that.
GBjam - To make up for Peggy's outrageous hijacking of your thread, if you're interested in Tommy Jarrell's bowing you might enjoy this recording I made of him at his house. What I notice now is all the variations he plays.
youtu.be/Egyg5HWFrjE

Edited by - DougD on 08/14/2022 08:23:34

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