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Jun 23, 2022 - 4:42:03 PM
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What's your favorite version of the tune that you hate most, and/or what's the version of your favorite tune that you hate most?

Jun 23, 2022 - 5:21:21 PM
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10241 posts since 3/19/2009

Any version of any tune that has been dumbed down to not include any drones, unison notes or chords.. It is ok to eliminate those things when learning the 'bones' of a tune but they Must IMO be eventually put in..

Jun 24, 2022 - 4:59:54 AM
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RobBob

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2832 posts since 6/26/2007

Don't know of any tunes I hate. If I don't like a tune I ignore it. I know of fiddlers I don't care to listen too. And I have heard horrid versions of some tunes but I don't have to listen to them if I am not judging a contest so that is really not a problem.

Jun 24, 2022 - 5:42:34 AM
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gapbob

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824 posts since 4/20/2008

quote:
Originally posted by TuneWeaver

Any version of any tune that has been dumbed down to not include any drones, unison notes or chords.. It is ok to eliminate those things when learning the 'bones' of a tune but they Must IMO be eventually put in..


When I see you at Clifftop I'll play some tunes like this and you can tell me how terrible they are. :-)

I don't think that those are three requirements for a tune, Lee—some of the most beautiful tunes I've heard are "dumbed down" like this.  There are many other aspects of playing, to insist on any one or group of them to make a tune "right" is just silly, but I think you might be trolling.  ;-)

Edited by - gapbob on 06/24/2022 05:45:14

Jun 24, 2022 - 5:51:32 AM

10241 posts since 3/19/2009

quote:
Originally posted by gapbob
quote:
Originally posted by TuneWeaver

Any version of any tune that has been dumbed down to not include any drones, unison notes or chords.. It is ok to eliminate those things when learning the 'bones' of a tune but they Must IMO be eventually put in..


When I see you at Clifftop I'll play some tunes like this and you can tell me how terrible they are. :-)

I don't think that those are three requirements for a tune, Lee—some of the most beautiful tunes I've heard are "dumbed down" like this.  There are many other aspects of playing, to insist on any one or group of them to make a tune "right" is just silly, but I think you might be trolling.  ;-)


No, not trolling, really... I just don't like to see that talented musicians could(don't have to) use more of those techniques but don't. They Can add a lot to the overall sound.. In a large  jam it is not as noticable, however.

Jun 24, 2022 - 5:56:47 AM
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2703 posts since 10/22/2007

quote:
Originally posted by gapbob
quote:
Originally posted by TuneWeaver

Any version of any tune that has been dumbed down to not include any drones, unison notes or chords.. It is ok to eliminate those things when learning the 'bones' of a tune but they Must IMO be eventually put in..


When I see you at Clifftop I'll play some tunes like this and you can tell me how terrible they are. :-)

I don't think that those are three requirements for a tune, Lee—some of the most beautiful tunes I've heard are "dumbed down" like this.  There are many other aspects of playing, to insist on any one or group of them to make a tune "right" is just silly, but I think you might be trolling.  ;-)


Indeed,  Ashokan Farewell sounds schmultzy with all the drones  and double stops. 

There's a lot of tunes out there. I dunno? I know there's some titles I hate. I think I made most of those up. smiley

Jun 24, 2022 - 7:36:27 AM
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gapbob

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824 posts since 4/20/2008

quote:
Posted by TuneWeaver
No, not trolling, really... I just don't like to see that talented musicians could(don't have to) use more of those techniques but don't. They Can add a lot to the overall sound.. In a large  jam it is not as noticable, however.

 


This goes to the musician's style and artistry—the™ (over)use of certain techniques I find to be rather tedious and boring to listen to—sometimes I bore myself!

(Note that the™ use of the™ word "the™" is now trademarked by The™ Ohio State University.  Wondering eventually if they might teach something other than football?)

Jun 24, 2022 - 9:01:26 AM
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DougD

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Tuneweaver - Those techniques you mentioned are elements of style. To use them or not is a personal and sometimes (at least formerly) regional choice. Whether they add to or detract from an overall sound is a matter of personal taste. What you like or don't like is your business, but to insist they "Must" be put in is, as Bob said, just silly.

Jun 24, 2022 - 12:31:39 PM

768 posts since 3/1/2020

I don’t have a particular tune in mind, but the thing that turns me off the most is the use of drum accompaniment in cheesy recordings from the 70s and 80s. The fiddling is sometimes excellent, but the drums just stick out and detract from the sound.

Jun 24, 2022 - 10:32:33 PM

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I think 50% of why people hate tunes or licks is because of having been exposed to mostly poor performances (If you want to hear the Nashville shuffle played "right", IMO, listen to Nashville players who made it famous), and the other 50% is because they don't like the attitudes of the people who play them. My philosophy now is "Well, if I don't like it, but I've gotta play it anyway, I'm gonna doctor it until I like it."
quote:
Originally posted by gapbob
quote:
Originally posted by TuneWeaver

Any version of any tune that has been dumbed down to not include any drones, unison notes or chords.. It is ok to eliminate those things when learning the 'bones' of a tune but they Must IMO be eventually put in..


When I see you at Clifftop I'll play some tunes like this and you can tell me how terrible they are. :-)

I don't think that those are three requirements for a tune, Lee—some of the most beautiful tunes I've heard are "dumbed down" like this.  There are many other aspects of playing, to insist on any one or group of them to make a tune "right" is just silly, but I think you might be trolling.  ;-)


Edited by - soppinthegravy on 06/24/2022 22:40:45

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Jun 25, 2022 - 10:18:09 AM
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I'm always annoyed when somebody does a 15-minute version of "Orange Blossom Special" crammed with every kind of hokum ever invented. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should!

Jun 25, 2022 - 10:58:24 AM
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13466 posts since 9/23/2009

I’ve always thought Greasy Coat was the ugliest tune I ever heard. If I ever hear it made to sound good, it might give me a new outlook…lol. Otherwise, never felt like wasting my time trying to make that tune make any musical sense.

Jun 25, 2022 - 11:56:14 AM

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That reminded me I want to learn that tune! I like those kind of bluesy fiddle tunes. The version I'm listening to is by Chance McCoy on youtube. Maybe if you heard that version it could be your favorite version of your most hated tune.

Jun 25, 2022 - 12:35:42 PM

13466 posts since 9/23/2009

Got a link, Brian, by any chance?

Jun 25, 2022 - 1:49:48 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

Got a link, Brian, by any chance?


Greasy Coat

I'm not saying it's pretty, but it's catchy.

Jun 25, 2022 - 2:27:15 PM

13466 posts since 9/23/2009

Ok...well...that's better than most, i gotta say. I think the best part is where they go to another chord in that A part...I can't explain it...lol. ..but although the tune retains some of its original ugliness...lol...for lack of a more polite word...I do especially think the chord progression does really help...the Ams and Ems and then in the A part where it goes from the Am to the C...or maybe I've just never heard an accompanied version before and didn't get the gist of the whole contour and chord progression...so..yeah that's a lot better.  Thanks for the link. 

Edited by - groundhogpeggy on 06/25/2022 14:32:10

Jul 4, 2022 - 10:59:26 AM

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"Greasy Coat" is one of those tunes where the chord progression used for accompaniment can really change the feeling of it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19cZvkYFzJI
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Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

Ok...well...that's better than most, i gotta say. I think the best part is where they go to another chord in that A part...I can't explain it...lol. ..but although the tune retains some of its original ugliness...lol...for lack of a more polite word...I do especially think the chord progression does really help...the Ams and Ems and then in the A part where it goes from the Am to the C...or maybe I've just never heard an accompanied version before and didn't get the gist of the whole contour and chord progression...so..yeah that's a lot better.  Thanks for the link. 


Jul 4, 2022 - 11:34:53 AM
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13466 posts since 9/23/2009

Well for sure they play better than I’ll ever hope too, but…they didn’t convince me that this tune is something I’d ever wanna play…lol…nothing against them or their chording…just…uh-uh…no…

Jul 6, 2022 - 5:48:26 AM
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145 posts since 9/17/2017

quote:
Originally posted by Brian Wood
quote:
Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

Got a link, Brian, by any chance?


Greasy Coat

I'm not saying it's pretty, but it's catchy.

 


That offended both my puritan ethics and my sophisticated urban sensibilities.  I loved it.  Thanks for that :-)

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