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May 31, 2022 - 12:04:40 PM
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13477 posts since 9/23/2009

Who's gonna be first to chime in here on this one?

youtu.be/26vW1IDZM8c

May 31, 2022 - 12:50:42 PM
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"Who's gonna be first to chime in here on this one?"

Me !...

Thanks Bob, and apologies for not posting a recording of last month's VFF tune. I did learn it, but i couldn't decide wich version to post.

I will do my best on this one also.

I have learned a lot about learning tunes from VFF. Cheers Peggy, and Bob.

May 31, 2022 - 1:08:24 PM

1919 posts since 4/6/2014

Apologies .....And obviously Max

May 31, 2022 - 1:10:20 PM
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Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

Who's gonna be first to chime in here on this one?

youtu.be/26vW1IDZM8c


THis is delightful.

May 31, 2022 - 2:02:03 PM

13477 posts since 9/23/2009

Pete...it's never too late. The last time we did VFF people sometimes put up a previous month's tune in the middle of the next month...lol...we don't care...just play that fiddle! It's all about the excitement and fun, the challenge of learning or playing all kinds of Old Timey tunes.

Ok guys...we gotta get going here...I hope to play this one sometime within the next few days if at all possible. One good thing...it's not a tough tune...pretty straightforward...so...let's see what we can do with it!

Jun 2, 2022 - 1:47:30 PM
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Wow, am I the first one? Lol...ok...ok, well here's my attempt at Old Molly Hare, as picked for us by the wonderful ever-climbing Bob and Roro...and I gotta say it's kinda challenging to try to be creative with this tune...here's what I came up with this afternoon...and now...time to come up with something for suppertime...maybe cut some greens and fry some chicken???? Well anyway...here's Old Molly Hare...come on, now, guys...don't let me get ahead on this...

youtu.be/l4Fum_T2OF4

Jun 2, 2022 - 9:26:22 PM
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Made a quick recording on iphone BandLab for another vid project, not recorded or mixed well. Not usual way I play it, so might redo it. 

Want to see if BL link works.

https://www.bandlab.com/akfiddlr/old-molly-hare-phone-a94cc64f?revId=37548990-f4e2-ec11-b656-281878319acf

versus what embed does.  Cool looks like works

Edited by - alaskafiddler on 06/02/2022 21:30:43

Jun 2, 2022 - 9:40:34 PM

3055 posts since 9/13/2009

Now need to figure out how to do screen capture off of iphone... any one know?

Jun 3, 2022 - 8:48:59 AM

13477 posts since 9/23/2009

Nice version of Old Molly Hare and nice fiddling, George! Thanks for jumping in there with us. Is Bandlab something like Garage Band or one of those things? I never heard of it but seems it's working out pretty well in your recording. Thanks!

Jun 3, 2022 - 1:54:05 PM
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BandLab is not one I used much, but is something like Garageband; or like what you use to record (Studio One?) - or many other DAWs (digital audio workstation). They all work pretty similar for basic multi-track recording. 

But BandLab, works on a phone (there is a browser and desktop version as well). Which was bit of point to this recording, and the Winderslide one made, demo playing around with the phone version app. It has more abilities features than what I initially thought. Garageband also has similar phone app, (but won't work on mine). Part of the goal, is folks wanting to do some multi-track, but thinking they need a lot things like good mic, or interface, or download learn some complicated program. So demo intro, to show how little need, ease, and results are not too horrible. I was just using the built-in mic on phone. I only spent maybe 15 minutes, could have spent a little time mix tracks a little better.  (not making a studio commercial recording here). My plan is to make a video of easy basic process... more designed for DIY folks like fiddlers. (I think I figured out the screen capture)

The mic and/or interface like you use is also a great way... but perhaps a bit more intimidating, more initial investment of money and time. (would make good video as well) But just thought minimalist approach, apps good initial intro. 

One interesting feature I haven't much explored is how the tracks can be published on their site... for others to listen to, link or embed (like above). As well there is a feature to easily do collaboration of tracks... maybe I'll see if any guinea pig here.

Edited by - alaskafiddler on 06/03/2022 13:59:32

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Jun 3, 2022 - 2:25:30 PM
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From my studio (basement bedroom), recorded on my very state of the art (for Wyoming) audio equipment:   Zoom H1 on a music stand, android phone plugged into some $50.00 desk top speakers to play Josh Turknett's version of Old Molly Hare from his OT Jam site.

And, I have no idea what you people above me are talking aboutsurprise  But your tunes sure sound good!

Old Molly Hare

Jun 3, 2022 - 4:19:27 PM

3055 posts since 9/13/2009

quote:
Originally posted by WyoBob

From my studio (basement bedroom), recorded on my very state of the art (for Wyoming) audio equipment:   Zoom H1 on a music stand, android phone plugged into some $50.00 desk top speakers to play Josh Turknett's version of Old Molly Hare from his OT Jam site.

And, I have no idea what you people above me are talking aboutsurprise  But your tunes sure sound good!

Old Molly Hare


Just another way to record, and multiple tracks... get not bad results in simple minimalist way.

Without needing a Zoom; or Presonus, Focusrite type device; nor USB mircophone, nor any expensive microphone (can, but don't need to). Nor fancy complex software/app. 

Just to point out our method of recording, makes the backing tracks a little hard to hear, (and seems a little out of sync?), and so a little confusing to the fiddle. there are some fairly easy ways to improve that... just suggestion, only if you want to. (not obligated to),

Jun 3, 2022 - 4:47:46 PM

WyoBob

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413 posts since 5/16/2019

quote:
Originally posted by alaskafiddler
quote:
Originally posted by WyoBob

From my studio (basement bedroom), recorded on my very state of the art (for Wyoming) audio equipment:   Zoom H1 on a music stand, android phone plugged into some $50.00 desk top speakers to play Josh Turknett's version of Old Molly Hare from his OT Jam site.

And, I have no idea what you people above me are talking aboutsurprise  But your tunes sure sound good!

Old Molly Hare


Just another way to record, and multiple tracks... get not bad results in simple minimalist way.

Without needing a Zoom; or Presonus, Focusrite type device; nor USB mircophone, nor any expensive microphone (can, but don't need to). Nor fancy complex software/app. 

Just to point out our method of recording, makes the backing tracks a little hard to hear, (and seems a little out of sync?), and so a little confusing to the fiddle. there are some fairly easy ways to improve that... just suggestion, only if you want to. (not obligated to),


I would appreciate any help you might offer.

Being a person who really needs hearing aids, I'm pretty aware of my limitations.   I play quite a bit with tunes from my phone, directly into my hearing aids and that works well for learning new tunes.  But, that doesn't transfer into what I tried to accomplish with the latest tune post to the FHO.  I think I'm just too dang old to grasp a lot of what I read about in regard to posting any music clips, let alone, video.   It's not a big deal.  I'm having a blast but, I wish I could grasp all of the things needed to post good music clips (let alone) video clips.

But, there are so many good player's posting, I don't imagine that I will ever have the skill to duplicate the great posts of great playing on the FHO.   Not a big deal.  I'm just tickled that I can play along with the recordings I've made of our OT local jam.  As Clint Eastwood once said, "a man has got to know his limitations".

Jun 3, 2022 - 5:01:07 PM

13477 posts since 9/23/2009

Bob, are you playing right along there with Old Time Jam? That’s a cool idea. Great job playing it and thanks for jumping in and playing one for us! Fun to listen to. Enjoyed hearing you play it!

Jun 4, 2022 - 5:41:28 AM
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WyoBob

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quote:
Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

Bob, are you playing right along there with Old Time Jam? That’s a cool idea. Great job playing it and thanks for jumping in and playing one for us! Fun to listen to. Enjoyed hearing you play it!


Yes.  I usually play along with recordings I've made of our group (I've recorded about 50 sessions over the last 5 years) or Josh's recordings from his site and listen through my hearing aids via Bluetooth.  That works much better than listening to music on a speaker for me but then when I record, there's just me playing the fiddle.  (My fiddle playing sounds better when I'm playing along with a good playersurprise)

Jun 4, 2022 - 3:58:34 PM

3055 posts since 9/13/2009

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Originally posted by WyoBob
 

I would appreciate any help you might offer.

Being a person who really needs hearing aids, I'm pretty aware of my limitations.   I play quite a bit with tunes from my phone, directly into my hearing aids and that works well for learning new tunes.  But, that doesn't transfer into what I tried to accomplish with the latest tune post to the FHO.  I think I'm just too dang old to grasp a lot of what I read about in regard to posting any music clips, let alone, video.   It's not a big deal.  I'm having a blast but, I wish I could grasp all of the things needed to post good music clips (let alone) video clips.

But, there are so many good player's posting, I don't imagine that I will ever have the skill to duplicate the great posts of great playing on the FHO.   Not a big deal.  I'm just tickled that I can play along with the recordings I've made of our OT local jam.  As Clint Eastwood once said, "a man has got to know his limitations".

 


Not quite sure of what process, computer or program might be using for process. But you can use one of these programs like garage band, band lab, studio one, or even audacity... and copy/import an existing recording as backing track straight into it, and then record another track for your fiddle. When play it back can now hear both equally well... and can adjust how loud each is to each other. 

You would be using your Zoom more as just an interface (or like a USB mic) into the app; rather than recording directly on th Zoom. It's not as complicated as maybe sounds. 

Jun 4, 2022 - 4:43:20 PM

13477 posts since 9/23/2009

I don't know why, but it seems a lone fiddle just doesn't do it like a fiddle plus ... add whatever--just some other instrument(s).

Jun 6, 2022 - 4:22:01 AM

13477 posts since 9/23/2009

I'm hearing the crickets... at least they are chirping out Old Molly Hare...anybody feel like jumpin in with them crickets?

Edited by - groundhogpeggy on 06/06/2022 04:22:31

Jun 6, 2022 - 4:31:21 AM

13477 posts since 9/23/2009

In case you're wondering what Ro and Bob do when they aren't randomly picking us a tune to play, here's a little glimpse into the world of R & B

Jun 6, 2022 - 5:53:50 AM
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WyoBob

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413 posts since 5/16/2019

quote:
Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

I don't know why, but it seems a lone fiddle just doesn't do it like a fiddle plus ... add whatever--just some other instrument(s).


I never gave it much thought, but I agree.   IMO, a single banjo can stand on it's own if played with any skill at all.  Same with a guitar.  I think a fiddle needs to be played by a really good player to stand on it's own.  A banjo and fiddle together is idealsmiley

Jun 6, 2022 - 6:25:48 AM
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WyoBob

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Originally posted by alaskafiddler
 

Not quite sure of what process, computer or program might be using for process. But you can use one of these programs like garage band, band lab, studio one, or even audacity... and copy/import an existing recording as backing track straight into it, and then record another track for your fiddle. When play it back can now hear both equally well... and can adjust how loud each is to each other. 

You would be using your Zoom more as just an interface (or like a USB mic) into the app; rather than recording directly on th Zoom. It's not as complicated as maybe sounds. 


I've used Audacity for editing the talking, false starts and dead spaces out of 50 or so recordings I've made of our old time jams over the last few years and that's the extent of my knowledge on that program.  I can see how my H1 can be used with my laptop as mic.  I'm gonna give it a shot when I get caught up.

I don't see the button on my laptop that makes me an outstanding fiddle player, thoughsad  

Jun 7, 2022 - 4:17:53 AM

13477 posts since 9/23/2009

Just gonna bump this thread up to get over the silly advertisement on the other thread. Here we go.

Jun 10, 2022 - 8:06:15 PM
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Decades ago, I used this tune as example of interesting relatives of a tune from different cultures... maybe one of the most popular. widely dispersed melodies?

Cajun - Contredanse de Mamou

New England - Knit Stockings

Donegal - Fairy Reel 

For example, but I had a collection others, from Shetland, Scotland, Quebec, France, IIRC Romania?... but can't recall what the titles.

Edited by - alaskafiddler on 06/10/2022 20:07:38

Jun 10, 2022 - 8:24:50 PM

13477 posts since 9/23/2009

Thanks, Alaskafiddler...very interesting how this tune has made the rounds!

Jun 11, 2022 - 4:24:28 PM

WyoBob

USA

413 posts since 5/16/2019

quote:
Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

I'm hearing the crickets... at least they are chirping out Old Molly Hare...anybody feel like jumpin in with them crickets?


Another bump to the top.

Gee, one reason I posted my playing was so anyone, no matter what their talent level, would not be shy about posting their rendition.   I guess I failed in my missionsad

Jun 11, 2022 - 5:02:31 PM
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Yours was good, Bob! We just aren't getting much excitement here for Virtual Fiddle Festival this time, like we did the other time several years ago. I guess people are busy with a lot of stuff...understandable. We'll see what happens as time goes on. I appreciate your participation...I enjoyed hearing you fiddling away with the Old Time Jam...cool thing to do.

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