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Jan 24, 2022 - 11:23:01 AM
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9951 posts since 3/19/2009

Just saw a photo of a guy rolling his eyes.. The caption to the photo was "When a singer at a session bursts into a 14 verse murder ballad"....
Here is one from me... "When a jam mate says, "Here is a tune I've been workin' on for a long time!.. Can anyone start it for me?"
OK, let's have fun with this.. and keep in mind that people have probably rolled their eyes at US from time to time..Well, at ME at least..

Jan 24, 2022 - 11:35:05 AM
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2133 posts since 8/27/2008

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Originally posted by TuneWeaver

Just saw a photo of a guy rolling his eyes.. The caption to the photo was "When a singer at a session bursts into a 14 verse murder ballad"....
Here is one from me... "When a jam mate says, "Here is a tune I've been workin' on for a long time!.. Can anyone start it for me?"
OK, let's have fun with this.. and keep in mind that people have probably rolled their eyes at US from time to time..Well, at ME at least..


I roll my eyes at your new threads a lot, but darned if you don't keep the conversation going. And I thank you for it.

Jan 24, 2022 - 11:37:38 AM
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9951 posts since 3/19/2009

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Originally posted by Brian Wood
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Originally posted by TuneWeaver

Just saw a photo of a guy rolling his eyes.. The caption to the photo was "When a singer at a session bursts into a 14 verse murder ballad"....
Here is one from me... "When a jam mate says, "Here is a tune I've been workin' on for a long time!.. Can anyone start it for me?"
OK, let's have fun with this.. and keep in mind that people have probably rolled their eyes at US from time to time..Well, at ME at least..


I roll my eyes at your new threads a lot, but darned if you don't keep the conversation going. And I thank you for it.


Hey, I'm old, retired and have a great sense of humour...or so I think......I often wonder why Everyone can't come up with inane topics like I do.. It must be my super power...smiley (thanks for the compliment.. I know I rub some people the wrong way... either they take me too seriously, or not seriously enough..such is life)..

Jan 24, 2022 - 11:56:25 AM
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doryman

USA

302 posts since 2/10/2020

Oh this will be fun. So, I play in jams that are mix of bluegrass, OT, folk, some country...you get the idea. I roll my eyes when someone calls for some jam buster kind of song that, not only do we not know well, THEY don't know well. And then they proceed to stop and start the song twenty times while they try to remember the lyrics or the chords or the melody. For some reason, this person is almost always a guitar player!

Jan 24, 2022 - 12:28:30 PM
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13160 posts since 9/23/2009

I went to several BG jams and played through their rapid fire tunes with them, that I didn't even know, but played along, and when I could convince them to go through an OT tune with me, suddenly nobody could figure out the I IV V chords...I had to try to fiddle through it, while yellin' out the Is, IVs, and Vs...and try to hold it all together while they seemed to find my tunes musically disorienting until finally the whole thing just fell to pieces, we sat there in the silence looking like deer in the headlights, and then went on to another BG favorite...lol. Always confused me how anybody so good at some of the pretty difficult BG tunes with involved progressions and keys at lightning pace couldn't hang on for one simple Possum's Tail is Bare couple of minutes with me yellin out the chords...lol...had to have been my own fault I guess, but yes, I felt like rolling my eyes during those times.

Jan 24, 2022 - 12:30:33 PM
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Old Scratch

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@doryman Even worse when, before all that, they've spent five minutes leafing through their binder - to find the lyrics and chords for that song that they never learned .....

Edited by - Old Scratch on 01/24/2022 12:32:28

Jan 24, 2022 - 1:04:48 PM
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Old Scratch

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@Groundhogpeggy: I should be used to it by now, but I can't get over the number of guitar players with otherwise great chops who cannot for the life of them come up with I, IV, V chords - or even just I & V chords - on the spot, to accompany a simple tune ... (rolls eyes) ... while OTOH, I've encountered numerous guitar-players who can do no more than strum their basic chords, but can at least do a passable job of finding passable chords ......

Jan 24, 2022 - 1:15:31 PM
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Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

I went to several BG jams and played through their rapid fire tunes with them, that I didn't even know, but played along, and when I could convince them to go through an OT tune with me, suddenly nobody could figure out the I IV V chords...I had to try to fiddle through it, while yellin' out the Is, IVs, and Vs...and try to hold it all together while they seemed to find my tunes musically disorienting until finally the whole thing just fell to pieces, we sat there in the silence looking like deer in the headlights, and then went on to another BG favorite...lol. Always confused me how anybody so good at some of the pretty difficult BG tunes with involved progressions and keys at lightning pace couldn't hang on for one simple Possum's Tail is Bare couple of minutes with me yellin out the chords...lol...had to have been my own fault I guess, but yes, I felt like rolling my eyes during those times.


For what it's worth, Peggy, you posted that one bit with you playing with that BG band (or I just saw it on the YouTubes) and I have to say I'm far more impressed with you that with that band, particularly the banjo player who appeared to be trying to run the show. HE made me roll my eyes. 

Jan 24, 2022 - 1:29:58 PM
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9951 posts since 3/19/2009

Then, there was the time that I'd introduced a new tune to the group. My daughter was in this jam and she could play the tune nicely... The guitar player accompanied well a couple of times through and everything sounded good....and then.... they set down the guitar and grabbed a violin...I looked at my daughter and she looked at me and we Both rolled our eyes (yes, it was a double eyes roller) because we knew what was comin'....... This person is famous for trying to figure out a tune 'on the fly' Loudly... hitting all the wrong notes.. ...It destroyed the overall sound! Friends.. When I'm with them, I could kill them, but when I'm without them......I'm dying..........

Edited by - TuneWeaver on 01/24/2022 13:31:20

Jan 24, 2022 - 2:19:27 PM

WyoBob

USA

361 posts since 5/16/2019

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Originally posted by ChickenMan
 

For what it's worth, Peggy, you posted that one bit with you playing with that BG band (or I just saw it on the YouTubes) and I have to say I'm far more impressed with you that with that band, particularly the banjo player who appeared to be trying to run the show. HE made me roll my eyes. 


Got  a link, Billly?

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Jan 24, 2022 - 2:38:57 PM
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doryman

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302 posts since 2/10/2020

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Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

I went to several BG jams and played through their rapid fire tunes with them, that I didn't even know, but played along, and when I could convince them to go through an OT tune with me, suddenly nobody could figure out the I IV V chords...I had to try to fiddle through it, while yellin' out the Is, IVs, and Vs...and try to hold it all together while they seemed to find my tunes musically disorienting until finally the whole thing just fell to pieces, we sat there in the silence looking like deer in the headlights, and then went on to another BG favorite...lol. Always confused me how anybody so good at some of the pretty difficult BG tunes with involved progressions and keys at lightning pace couldn't hang on for one simple Possum's Tail is Bare couple of minutes with me yellin out the chords...lol...had to have been my own fault I guess, but yes, I felt like rolling my eyes during those times.


As a long time banjo and guitar player and a recent fiddle player, one thing I've discovered is that it's very hard to lead a song on the fiddle compared to when you're playing guitar or banjo.  ESPECIALLY for songs that people don't know that well, even if they are simple 1,4,5 songs.  First of all, when you're playing the guitar, most of the other players who don't know the song are looking at your fingers for the chords.  Even on the banjo they can still look at your hands to see that you're changing chords, even if they don't know the banjo chord shapes.  Finally, you're more likely to be singing and playing at the same time if you're playing the guitar or banjo than if you're playing the fiddle. Singing also helps folks follow the changes. 

Edited by - doryman on 01/24/2022 14:40:07

Jan 24, 2022 - 3:37:54 PM
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2133 posts since 8/27/2008

quote:
Originally posted by TuneWeaver
quote:
Originally posted by Brian Wood
quote:
Originally posted by TuneWeaver

Just saw a photo of a guy rolling his eyes.. The caption to the photo was "When a singer at a session bursts into a 14 verse murder ballad"....
Here is one from me... "When a jam mate says, "Here is a tune I've been workin' on for a long time!.. Can anyone start it for me?"
OK, let's have fun with this.. and keep in mind that people have probably rolled their eyes at US from time to time..Well, at ME at least..


I roll my eyes at your new threads a lot, but darned if you don't keep the conversation going. And I thank you for it.


Hey, I'm old, retired and have a great sense of humour...or so I think......I often wonder why Everyone can't come up with inane topics like I do.. It must be my super power...smiley (thanks for the compliment.. I know I rub some people the wrong way... either they take me too seriously, or not seriously enough..such is life)..

 


Lee, you have a sense of play that I very much appreciate. And I like to think I have a sense of humor too. Wry and Ironic sometimes. which I hope usually translates because for some reason I will not use emoticons. I drew the line at emoticons sometime back. I have never used one. I see everybody else's posts and I just roll my eyes.

Jan 24, 2022 - 3:45:28 PM
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5804 posts since 9/26/2008

https://youtu.be/Rm2-99wQyyY

Here's the one I recall. Guitar is capoed at the 7th fret crying out loud. Tuning on that banjo is not "close enough." Tempo... 

Peggy, bless your heart for sticking with them as long as you did. 

Jan 24, 2022 - 3:54:54 PM
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2590 posts since 7/12/2013

I think what causes me to roll my eyes is the fiddler that always is playing over everyone's solo but thinks that they are are "twinning" with everyone.

That friend that always plays crooked swing tunes, and always prefaces them with "it's actually really straightforward".

Jan 24, 2022 - 3:55:50 PM

9951 posts since 3/19/2009

quote:
Originally posted by Brian Wood
quote:
Originally posted by TuneWeaver
quote:
Originally posted by Brian Wood
quote:
Originally posted by TuneWeaver

Just saw a photo of a guy rolling his eyes.. The caption to the photo was "When a singer at a session bursts into a 14 verse murder ballad"....
Here is one from me... "When a jam mate says, "Here is a tune I've been workin' on for a long time!.. Can anyone start it for me?"
OK, let's have fun with this.. and keep in mind that people have probably rolled their eyes at US from time to time..Well, at ME at least..


I roll my eyes at your new threads a lot, but darned if you don't keep the conversation going. And I thank you for it.


Hey, I'm old, retired and have a great sense of humour...or so I think......I often wonder why Everyone can't come up with inane topics like I do.. It must be my super power...smiley (thanks for the compliment.. I know I rub some people the wrong way... either they take me too seriously, or not seriously enough..such is life)..

 


Lee, you have a sense of play that I very much appreciate. And I like to think I have a sense of humor too. Wry and Ironic sometimes. which I hope usually translates because for some reason I will not use emoticons. I drew the line at emoticons sometime back. I have never used one. I see everybody else's posts and I just roll my eyes.


You know what they say, "Takes one to know one."   

Jan 24, 2022 - 3:57:41 PM
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Originally posted by fiddlinsteudel

I think what causes me to roll my eyes is the fiddler that always is playing over everyone's solo but thinks that they are are "twinning" with everyone.

That friend that always plays crooked swing tunes, and always prefaces them with "it's actually really straightforward".


Sure, straightforward, if that is the only tune you played for a week ..or two!!   I've found myself saying that about tunes..

Jan 24, 2022 - 4:00:41 PM
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2590 posts since 7/12/2013

Yeah and this guy practiced a LOT, and was really good, but just didn't always get the level of the people he was playing with.

Jan 24, 2022 - 4:11:02 PM
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WyoBob

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361 posts since 5/16/2019

quote:
Originally posted by ChickenMan

https://youtu.be/Rm2-99wQyyY

Here's the one I recall. Guitar is capoed at the 7th fret crying out loud. Tuning on that banjo is not "close enough." Tempo... 

Peggy, bless your heart for sticking with them as long as you did. 


Well, that was outstanding compared to the old jam group I used to play with.  Really good.  With the jam busters who now populate my old group, well, that would have been outstanding.  

I haven't been able to play with the great group I play with now until yesterday.   I've missed 5 or 6 sessions in a row with Lynn's OT group and it sure was great to be able to play with such outstanding musician's again.  There's no YouTubes of that group so I can't post any links but, man, am I lucky to be able to play with them!

Jan 24, 2022 - 4:12:22 PM
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2601 posts since 10/22/2007

It's surprising how many picker know the 1-4-5 in most of the easy keys, but don't know them as such (Nashville numbering) . Then they fume about "numbers." Yet it would save their bacon by not having to memorize the 4th and 5th in all those keys.

Jan 24, 2022 - 4:18:13 PM
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2601 posts since 10/22/2007

I've ended up mostly grabbing a mandolin when it's my turn to call the tune. Sing some simple tune. Then going back to fiddle when it's not my turn, to play a break or fill, etc. Just easier.

Jan 24, 2022 - 4:29:11 PM
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Earworm

USA

320 posts since 1/30/2018

When they can't come up with a steady count of 4 to get the darn thing started.

Jan 24, 2022 - 4:37:32 PM
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doryman

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302 posts since 2/10/2020

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Originally posted by Earworm

When they can't come up with a steady count of 4 to get the darn thing started.


What I love (and it causes me to laugh out loud, not roll my eyes) is when they count in and then commence to play at a speed that bears no resemblance to the count in.  

Jan 24, 2022 - 4:41:03 PM

9951 posts since 3/19/2009

quote:
Originally posted by doryman
quote:
Originally posted by Earworm

When they can't come up with a steady count of 4 to get the darn thing started.


What I love (and it causes me to laugh out loud, not roll my eyes) is when they count in and then commence to play at a speed that bears no resemblance to the count in.  


Hey, I did that  myself, for a decade..   If they (me) can't play in good time, at least they (me) are givin' it their (me) best.. I've seen Many eye rolls about my playing... You might get a few laughs by reading the archived topic: https://www.fiddlehangout.com/archive/17178/1

Jan 24, 2022 - 4:42:46 PM
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Old Scratch

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Like the guitar-player down in New Brunswick - when they asked him to count it in, he said, "One, two, three - go!"

Jan 24, 2022 - 5:16:24 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by WyoBob
quote:
Originally posted by ChickenMan

https://youtu.be/Rm2-99wQyyY

Here's the one I recall. Guitar is capoed at the 7th fret crying out loud. Tuning on that banjo is not "close enough." Tempo... 

Peggy, bless your heart for sticking with them as long as you did. 


Well, that was outstanding compared to the old jam group I used to play with.  Really good.  With the jam busters who now populate my old group, well, that would have been outstanding.  

I haven't been able to play with the great group I play with now until yesterday.   I've missed 5 or 6 sessions in a row with Lynn's OT group and it sure was great to be able to play with such outstanding musician's again.  There's no YouTubes of that group so I can't post any links but, man, am I lucky to be able to play with them!

 


These folks are a band that gets paid, not a jam. Big difference in my eyes.

Occasionally Christina would post a whole jam on Facebook. 

Jan 24, 2022 - 5:40:10 PM

doryman

USA

302 posts since 2/10/2020

quote:
Originally posted by TuneWeaver
quote:
Originally posted by doryman
quote:
Originally posted by Earworm

When they can't come up with a steady count of 4 to get the darn thing started.


What I love (and it causes me to laugh out loud, not roll my eyes) is when they count in and then commence to play at a speed that bears no resemblance to the count in.  


Hey, I did that  myself, for a decade..   If they (me) can't play in good time, at least they (me) are givin' it their (me) best.. I've seen Many eye rolls about my playing... You might get a few laughs by reading the archived topic: https://www.fiddlehangout.com/archive/17178/1


I'm the same way.  I'm horrible at counting in.  Mostly, I count too slow and then the song ends up being a four minute dirge.  My solution is to NOT be the person counting in. 

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