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Jan 14, 2022 - 12:00:08 PM
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10169 posts since 3/19/2009

Who plays this? Over the years I've played around with it..Trying to decide who I would like to sound like the most before I tackle it to the point where I can say I PLAY it.. As of today I'm leaning toward This:https://chriscoole.com/new-album-afield?fbclid=IwAR2g0dZd_sTf5jvvZ5QNY1bpEuSWFAnqbkpXyAsn-YKh958CbBcnoDbckIU

The fiddler's Companion has interesting info about the tune's history.

What version do you like?

Edited by - TuneWeaver on 01/14/2022 12:01:18

Jan 14, 2022 - 3:15:37 PM
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wilford

USA

309 posts since 6/26/2007

First time I've ever heard it. It's a neat sounding tune. This is the only version I've heard. I like it.

Jan 14, 2022 - 3:21:09 PM

2192 posts since 8/27/2008

By coincidence I was playing it right before I opened fiddle hangout. I recently learned a version from Walt Koken's site which I like. I'm just trying to get comfortable at his speed, 117BPM.

Jan 14, 2022 - 3:27:50 PM
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2192 posts since 8/27/2008

I listened to the version you posted. Nice. Pretty fast and fancy. Is there a term for "progressive" oldtime, like newgrass to bluegrass?

Jan 14, 2022 - 3:59:43 PM

10169 posts since 3/19/2009

I think that the MK version is rather basic and needs more drones .. but it is a start.. I'm going to be reading the Phillips version to get a good feel and then do EAR training with the video posted.. No, I won't play it like him exactly but he is doing a lot that I like.. My goal will be to come up with a Jammable version that is not so difficult that others can't learn and yet not so easy as to be a 'beginners' version.. Fingers crossed.. I've listened to Slippery Hill and probably won't get to where I'll be playing along with that.

Jan 14, 2022 - 4:50:41 PM
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carlb

USA

2434 posts since 2/2/2008

Here's my banjo version from 2008 on BHO.

https://www.banjohangout.org/song/9508
 

My fiddle version is the same arrangement. The French Carpenter version is on slippery-hill.
https://www.slippery-hill.com/content/elzics-farewell
I do have a copy of the  Doc White playing it. I received it in a trade and don't feel right posting it, but I will email it to any on FHO who really want it.

Jan 14, 2022 - 6:23:16 PM

10169 posts since 3/19/2009

quote:
Originally posted by carlb

Here's my banjo version from 2008 on BHO.

https://www.banjohangout.org/song/9508
 

My fiddle version is the same arrangement. The French Carpenter version is on slippery-hill.
https://www.slippery-hill.com/content/elzics-farewell
I do have a copy of the  Doc White playing it. I received it in a trade and don't feel right posting it, but I will email it to any on FHO who really want it.


Nice job  on that banjo Carl, and I DID revisit the Slippery-hill version and see that it can be helpful.. I find it interesting that tunes that seem complex seem to simplify with enough listening!! go figure!

Jan 14, 2022 - 6:26:40 PM

140 posts since 6/23/2007

Jan 14, 2022 - 6:33:34 PM

wilford

USA

309 posts since 6/26/2007

Carl, I really like your banjo version of the tune. :)

Jan 14, 2022 - 6:33:47 PM
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10169 posts since 3/19/2009

quote:
Originally posted by Jasper

my fav version....

youtube.com/watch?v=3LH_4rATDZ...&index=17


Nice, but are you sure that your picking the tune as you Fav had nothing to do with the Hat??smiley Good to see your post.. Where' ya been?

Edited by - TuneWeaver on 01/14/2022 18:39:46

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Jan 14, 2022 - 6:37:40 PM
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140 posts since 6/23/2007

quote: Hi Lee,
The Hat was a Hoot, but that version is the Bomb...for me.
Originally posted by TuneWeaver
quote:
Originally posted by Jasper

my fav version....

youtube.com/watch?v=3LH_4rATDZ...&index=17


Nice, but are you sure that your picking the tune as you Fav had nothing to do with the Hat??smiley


Jan 15, 2022 - 6:59:05 AM
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523 posts since 9/1/2010

There is one story that says French Carpenter had a descendant named Elzic who composed and played this tune before going off to battle during the Civil War, and another that says Harvey Elswick played this tune on his mother's deathbed at her request that he play his fiddle for her one last time (making the tune up on the spot). Harvey did serve in a Kentucky Civil War unit and there is a possibility I suppose that he could have picked the tune up during the war, but when I was growing up the latter story was the one most people told. Harvey and his family were from Pike County, KY I believe and then relocated to Kanawha County, WV some years after the war ended. Their place was about 7 miles up the road from where I live today.
My only problem with the fancied-up version posted is that I feel that it loses the haunting nature of this tune. For me, it has always been a tune filled with sorrow. The second video posted in this thread seems like the fiddler is adding some additional notes in the second part? The two versions I listened to when learning this were Ernie Carpenter's and Wilson Douglas'. Both versions are very similar other than the first part varying a little bit, and I leaned more towards Wilson's. In the northern part of the state (Morgantown) some folks even play a third part. It isn't part of the original tune and I think it evolved from the festival scene. It actually is a nice addition though. Anyhow, I'm going to post a video of Wilson playing the tune and another video showing someone playing it with the third part added in. This is one of my favorite WV tunes so I'm glad to see folks taking interest in it.

For the record, I'm not discrediting the modern interpretations of this tune or saying you shouldn't learn from those.  I think people should learn the version they like the most.  My intention is to share my experience with this tune.  I think some folks want to get as close to the source as possible when learning these old tunes and I feel Wilson's is one of the best in that regard.

https://youtu.be/fprZ66lKdfA   Wilson Douglas

https://youtu.be/f1ieaEHk77c   Festival version with third part

Jan 15, 2022 - 8:33:24 AM
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bsed55

USA

4224 posts since 6/23/2007

I concur. Listen to Wilson Douglas play it.

Jan 15, 2022 - 9:25:46 AM

10169 posts since 3/19/2009

quote:
Originally posted by bsed

I concur. Listen to Wilson Douglas play it.


Do you play this tune, Bruce?  I can't imagine that you don'tlaugh

Jan 15, 2022 - 10:50:35 AM
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bsed55

USA

4224 posts since 6/23/2007

 I can say I play the tune. I went to the trouble of tabbing it out so I could recall how it goes. But most of the time I would only play it in a jam. It's not one of those tunes I've been intentionally trying to keep sharp at.

Jan 16, 2022 - 1:24:23 PM

10169 posts since 3/19/2009

Ok, I'm 'going' for it.. Having listened to Many audios of the tune... Give me a month and I'll post (promise) an audio of my efforts..No, I won't be begging for 'likes'. Will only be playing for those who appreciate the tune..wink

Jan 21, 2022 - 1:16:15 PM
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1512 posts since 5/13/2008

I just posted my version of Elzic's over on the sound off...

Jan 21, 2022 - 2:32:29 PM

10169 posts since 3/19/2009

quote:
Originally posted by fiddlerjoebob

I just posted my version of Elzic's over on the sound off...


That is really NICE.. I hope I can play it as well!! Good wrist action also!

Edited by - TuneWeaver on 01/21/2022 14:32:56

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