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Sep 20, 2021 - 9:51:45 PM
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When did playing "I Don't Love Nobody" in A become widespread? I thought of it as a C major tune with a part in A minor, but there seem to be a lot of folks who play the whole tune in A major. I assume that the Texas folks helped to popularize this, but I am curious who started this, what gave them the idea, etc.

Local square dance fiddler Risey Scruggs, who played it in A, said his daddy used to play "I Don't Love Nobody". I asked if his dad played it in A like him. He said "Yeah." I used to think his version came from the contest crowd, but Risey's has a few noticeable differences from how most of those folks played it. youtube.com/watch?v=mbIgqcYCdSw

Edited by - soppinthegravy on 10/10/2021 15:18:33

Sep 20, 2021 - 10:46:13 PM

doryman

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quote:
Originally posted by soppinthegravy

When did playing "I Don't Love Nobody" in A become widespread? I thought of it as a C major tune with a part in A minor, but there seem to be a lot of folks who play the whole tune in A major. I assume that the Texas folks helped to popularize this, but I am curious who started this, what gave them the idea, etc.

 


The only thing I know is that it's keeping me up at nights. 

Sep 21, 2021 - 5:15:22 AM

5401 posts since 9/26/2008

Isn't that a song turned into a tune? Seems very notey in the way those contest styled tunes are notey, with those repeating three note licks throughout.

Sep 21, 2021 - 5:54:13 AM

DougD

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10290 posts since 12/2/2007

Yes, its a "coon" song from 1896, originally published in F:
repository.library.brown.edu/s...dr:22522/

Sep 21, 2021 - 6:32:14 AM

DougD

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10290 posts since 12/2/2007

The Skillet Lickers recording is in C, of course.

Sep 21, 2021 - 9:18:56 AM

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Originally posted by DougD

Yes, its a "coon" song from 1896, originally published in F:
repository.library.brown.edu/s...dr:22522/


Then I'd say it is definitely souped up a la contest fiddling. 

Sep 21, 2021 - 9:56:06 AM
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This ought to go in the, when is a tune so simplified it it no longer the tune? Oh, I recon it's in D as well.


Edited by - farmerjones on 09/21/2021 09:56:59

Sep 21, 2021 - 2:25:33 PM

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Adding to the mix, we have "Sleepy Lou"/"Sleeping Lula", "Dickson County Breakdown", "Trombone Rag", "Hotfoot Rag", "Trot Along, My Honey", "Twinkle, Little Star", "Done Gone", and "Natural Bridge Blues", to name a few. Risey and his brothers played "Sleepy Lou", which Risey learned from his mother. You can hear Monk comment "I got off on the wrong tune. I got off on 'I Don't Love Nobody'." He was a much better fiddler than this video suggests. youtube.com/watch?v=7b9KffUBrSI Interestingly, to my knowledge, in the 2002 fiddle-off at Smithville, Risey played "I Don't Love Nobody" while Ashley Sullivan played the similar "Hotfoot Rag".

Dick Crawford played it in A, but kept the section with the minors. Curly Fox played it similar to the Skillet Lickers, but moved it to B flat, maybe for singing.

Edited by - soppinthegravy on 09/21/2021 14:26:53

Sep 21, 2021 - 2:45:59 PM

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Risey was Old-Time, but he loved the smoother, fancier fiddlers (The Bob Walters and Cyril Stinnett type of fiddling reminds me of Risey.), and he competed quite a bit. I wouldn't be surprised if he souped his daddy's version up for contests and forgot the older version. He said he changed "Sally Goodin" from the way he used to play it at square dances when he started playing it in contests, and he had been playing the newer arrangement for so long he couldn't remember the way he used to play it.
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Originally posted by DougD

Yes, its a "coon" song from 1896, originally published in F:
repository.library.brown.edu/s...dr:22522/


Then I'd say it is definitely souped up a la contest fiddling. 


Edited by - soppinthegravy on 09/21/2021 14:47:57

Oct 8, 2021 - 8:29:45 PM

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What is the earliest recording of someone fiddling "I Don't Love Nobody" in A?

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