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Jul 1, 2021 - 10:03:11 AM
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RichJ

USA

685 posts since 8/6/2013

Mark Twain once said using the almost right word and the right word in a sentence is like the difference between a lightning bug and lightning.” Well that's the way I feel about the guitar chords used with a fiddle tune. When the "right" ones are there there's a feeling that comes over me that makes me want to just dig in and play that tune the best I can. If they don't seem right, well I sorta' feel something's missing and no matter how well I play a tune the "feeling" just ain't there. Today I was trying to plug some chords in my Strum Machine app to use with Paddy on the Railway aka; The Merry Blacksmith and well, let's just say they don't seem (feel?) right (see photo). Sure makes me wish I knew more about music and how to figure out chords.

While I'm on the subject, I wonder if guitar players who back fiddlers realized how important they are? Few fiddlers can make a tune sound good without those deep base notes and driving rhythm provided by the back up guitar. And, if the guitar player can punch in a sweet walkin' base line so much the better.

Edited by - RichJ on 07/01/2021 14:38:35

Jul 1, 2021 - 10:46:57 AM

2637 posts since 10/22/2007

Is Paddy on the Railway the same as Paddy on the Turnpike? If it is, I only use F and G (chords).

Nope. Never mind.

Edited by - farmerjones on 07/01/2021 10:57:46

Jul 1, 2021 - 11:28:09 AM

DougD

USA

10589 posts since 12/2/2007
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I'd never heard of this tune, but just looking at it in "Ryan's" does suggest an Em and maybe even a Bm leading into it.
However, here's Dwight Lamb playing it, and they don't use any minor chords: youtu.be/4fMUb7uivks

Jul 1, 2021 - 11:48:14 AM

RichJ

USA

685 posts since 8/6/2013

Doug and Steve - here's a rough MP3 I just put together on the Presonus using the chords I posted above... and no where near at the speed Ryan plays it.


Edited by - RichJ on 07/01/2021 11:54:16

Jul 1, 2021 - 2:18:41 PM

134 posts since 1/21/2017

quote:
Originally posted by RichJ

 When the "right" ones are there there's a feeling that comes over me that makes me want to just dig and play that tune the best I can. If they don't seem right, well I sorta' feel something's missing and no matter how well I play a tune the "feeling" just ain't there.


I couldn't agree more.

Jul 2, 2021 - 6:19:36 AM
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carlb

USA

2433 posts since 2/2/2008

Sometimes, depending upon how you personally feel, a different chord can be used in a tune then is commonly used. My best example (pointed out to me by a friend many years ago) is Mississippi Sawyer. After the opening phrase almost everybody goes to a G chord for the G note on the 1st string. However, as it was pointed out to me, an A chord can sound just fine, actually A7. On the fiddle while playing G on the 1st string, I can either finger B on the 2nd string (double stop within a G chord) or leave it as an open A (double stop within an A7 chord). Both ways sound just fine to me.

Jul 2, 2021 - 8:51:39 AM
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504 posts since 7/18/2014

That’s a pretty fast tune. I’ll just mention to you that you can double up your strums. As in, now you have four D’s, add four more D’s. Next, two Bm’s, add two more. So it would look like DDDDDDDDBmBmBmBm and so on throughout the tune. Then bump up your rpm’s to about 110, you can set in your voltswaggon and play the fiddle while poor old Uncle John Strum is wailing away on the guitar in his corvette.

Jul 2, 2021 - 9:19:47 AM

RichJ

USA

685 posts since 8/6/2013

quote:
Originally posted by Astrang

That’s a pretty fast tune. I’ll just mention to you that you can double up your strums. As in, now you have four D’s, add four more D’s. Next, two Bm’s, add two more. So it would look like DDDDDDDDBmBmBmBm and so on throughout the tune. Then bump up your rpm’s to about 110, you can set in your voltswaggon and play the fiddle while poor old Uncle John Strum is wailing away on the guitar in his corvette.


Hey Astrang, that's a cute trick. Just tried it on the A part and while those cords sorta' feel the same, doubling up on the strums like that really changes the mood of the tune opening up all kinds of opportunity for new improve. Luvin it...

Jul 2, 2021 - 11:12:37 AM
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13313 posts since 9/23/2009

None of this sounds like English to me, except for the Mark Twain quote...but this is why I'd rather just play guitar backups for myself while fiddling...and that's a difficult feat to accomplish...lol...thank goodness for the Presonus. Before the Presonus, I always used to try it with two cell phones...lol. That was pretty bad.

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