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Jun 23, 2021 - 2:36:31 PM
9163 posts since 3/19/2009

Today I listened to EVERY Mp3 of Hangman's Reel in the Hangout media library of this tune and have also listened to Jean Carignan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT3DctGzUhI  as well as to every Youtube video I could find of the tune. ..Obviously, there are a LOT (not yelling) of ways to play it .  What are your thoughts on it? Do you normally play a basic 'jam' version or do you try to cut loose!!!???? Personally, I'm trying to be a lot more creative when busking after having listened to Jean play..

Edited by - TuneWeaver on 06/23/2021 14:39:13

Jun 23, 2021 - 3:21:25 PM
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DougD

USA

10171 posts since 12/2/2007

The story I've heard is that Albert Hash heard or met Jean Carignan at a festival and bought one of his records. I've seen a photo of the back cover of his copy and "Hangman's Reel" was underlined or circled. Albert was an influential fiddler in this area and a lot of younger players learned the version he came up with. I remember a happy party where a whole room of fiddlers played it, with more exuberance than sublety perhaps.
And I suppose the ripples spread from there. If you've heard Jean Carignan play it you'll realize the common "jam" version is quite different, which is not too surprising. Maybe not everyone's cup of tea, but Carignan was an extraordinary fiddler.

Edited by - DougD on 06/23/2021 15:26:41

Jun 23, 2021 - 3:23:53 PM

9163 posts since 3/19/2009

quote:
Originally posted by DougD

The story I've heard is that Albert Hash heard or met Jean Carignan at a festival and bought one of his records. I've seen a photo of the back cover of his copy and "Hangman's Reel" was underlined or circled. Albert was an influential fiddler in this area and a lot of younger players learned the version he came up with. I remember a happy party where a whole room of fiddlers played it, with more exuberance than sublety perhaps.
And I suppose the ripples spread from there. If you've heard Jean Carignan play it you'll realize the common "jam" version is quite different, which is not too surprising. Maybe not everyone's cup of tea, but Carignan was an extraordinary fiddler.


Yep, Jean is great.. I suspect that he played the tune a little differently every time.. so I'm gonna steal a phrase here and there.....!

Jun 23, 2021 - 3:27:33 PM

DougD

USA

10171 posts since 12/2/2007

Well, good luck!

Jun 23, 2021 - 4:46:33 PM
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90 posts since 1/21/2017

This is one of my favorite versions...youtube.com/watch?v=LXytgQ-UuWI
They're wrappin' it up at the beginning of the video, but they start it again at about 3:08. Brian was a student of Albert Hash.

Jun 23, 2021 - 5:10:23 PM
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9163 posts since 3/19/2009

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Originally posted by coryobert

This is one of my favorite versions...youtube.com/watch?v=LXytgQ-UuWI
They're wrappin' it up at the beginning of the video, but they start it again at about 3:08. Brian was a student of Albert Hash.


When slowed down 50% it is obvious that Brian OWNS that tune.. I'm inspired!!!  I slowed it to see how clear he was playing.. and Yes.. CLear .. He knows what he is doing..

Edited by - TuneWeaver on 06/23/2021 17:11:21

Jun 23, 2021 - 6:15:15 PM
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5244 posts since 9/26/2008

I love the Canadian version and like playing a mash up of it and Hash's version (the one common around around here) in calico tuning. When playing with others, I still use the C# tuning but stick to the version being played.

Jun 24, 2021 - 6:07:24 AM
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9163 posts since 3/19/2009

I've been working on all of the Session transcripts...None are technically that difficult but as usual, it is in the EXECUTION of the notes with bow/rhythm/SKILL, where the work is.. Playing from the transcripts will improve my busking version of the tune but I'll still have to do something basic for jam sessions....Locally, we don't usually play it AEac#, and it is not necessary, but I'm going to add the c# for a while and see what difference it makes.. The c# allows for a three open string plucking sequence!!

Edited by - TuneWeaver on 06/24/2021 06:09:58

Jun 24, 2021 - 8:21:52 AM
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bsed

USA

4147 posts since 6/23/2007

I found a version last year based on Jean's played by a young lady. I was able to slow it down enough to see her technique, which helped a LOT in being able to play the tune, which I did fairly quickly.

Jun 24, 2021 - 8:31:50 AM

9163 posts since 3/19/2009

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Originally posted by bsed

I found a version last year based on Jean's played by a young lady. I was able to slow it down enough to see her technique, which helped a LOT in being able to play the tune, which I did fairly quickly.


That is great, Bruce.. I under stand Jean's technique.. I just can't DO most of it.. However, I can play along with the transcription!!! Now, I just need to Channel him!!

Jun 24, 2021 - 9:18:37 AM
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bsed

USA

4147 posts since 6/23/2007

smileyIf you come to BG, I'll show you how it's done. Free lesson! Shirley you can't turn down Free.

Jun 24, 2021 - 12:53:50 PM

9163 posts since 3/19/2009

Last year when we were discussing Jerusalem Ridge.. it seemed so hard to play.. Now after a zillion times through and having used it as a busking tune, it isn't so daunting.. I can actually play it quite well.. I"m sure that Jean Carignan didn't just one day decide to play the Hangman's Reel...he worked on it for a while..and had fun doing so while he worked out how he wanted to play it.. I'll do the same..not hurry..

Jun 24, 2021 - 1:31:25 PM

gapbob

USA

756 posts since 4/20/2008

I don't really prefer Carignan's playing that much—he's good, but sloppy, IMHO.

Jun 24, 2021 - 2:18:40 PM
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9163 posts since 3/19/2009

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Originally posted by gapbob

I don't really prefer Carignan's playing that much—he's good, but sloppy, IMHO.


I learned from you, Bob, and I probably can learn from Jean Carignan...Ok, OK>. I didn't really learn anything from either of you YET, but I haven't given up hope!!!!!

Jun 25, 2021 - 4:17:18 PM
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bsed

USA

4147 posts since 6/23/2007

quote:
Originally posted by gapbob

I don't really prefer Carignan's playing that much—he's good, but sloppy, IMHO.


I'll respectfully have to take issue with you Bob. Carignan's fingering and bowing are crisp and efficient. I've heard sloppy playing before, but this ain't it.

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