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Jan 25, 2021 - 10:09:06 AM
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Quincy

Belgium

36 posts since 1/16/2021

This is where I am standing after half a year. It's just me practising Drunken Sailor first and then Swallowtail Jig.

I just started to learn to play the upper half of my bow after for a long time practising long bow strikes on slow tunes like Amazing Grace, Waltzing Matilda , You raise me Up and so on,  but I really need to pay attention to it now that I do use the upper half of my bow.
Feel free to tell me what is absolutely wrong or bad or should need my attention. I know I should better not end with an up bow, unfortunately I do here.

I hope that one day I'll have a nice clean sound when playing up tempo, now you can hear me mostly struggling when trying to play a lot faster than what I was used to past few months, but I guess this is not exceptional as a total beginner.

I started private classes half a year ago, at the end of July.

This is a rental instrument.

I have no idea at all how I am doing after half a year. I mean, I hope there is hope for me hehe, because I am not planning to give up.

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Edited by - Quincy on 01/25/2021 10:13:54

Jan 25, 2021 - 10:28:33 AM
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banjopaolo

Italy

135 posts since 9/14/2010

Great Anja!
You are a good student and you must be proud of your playing: intonation is good, and the sound is strong, I’m sure you have an exellent teacher that can help you to do all the improvement... keep playing and posting!
Best wishes for your fiddling!

Edited by - banjopaolo on 01/25/2021 10:30:36

Jan 25, 2021 - 10:37:45 AM

Quincy

Belgium

36 posts since 1/16/2021

Thank you Paolo, my teacher praises me from beginning for what she calls 'making good sound' and says that I have a good musical hearing.
Aside from that I hope that one day I learn to touch only the string I want to, now you hear lots of mistakes.
Practising slow and staying in tempo is what I try, but for some reason I always speed up , making it more complex for myself!

My teacher is absolutely great! I am very happy I found her and made a good choice, she is a true professional.

Edited by - Quincy on 01/25/2021 10:42:19

Jan 25, 2021 - 11:07:47 AM
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1471 posts since 4/6/2014

Solid tone, good intonation, Good job.

Jan 25, 2021 - 11:27:48 AM
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RichJ

USA

411 posts since 8/6/2013

Best of all, and regardless of how you learned those tunes, it looks like your playing without sheet music.

Jan 25, 2021 - 12:20:21 PM
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Old Scratch

Canada

680 posts since 6/22/2016

Yes, you're off to a good start, for reasons the others have said - and good rhythm as well (although there's something a little of with Swallowtail - you've added or left out a beat or two; might want to check that. Unless you prefer it that way; in which case, leave it alone!).

Jan 25, 2021 - 3:07:58 PM
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2253 posts since 8/23/2008

Good job on the fiddle, and you trained the Rottie well.

I would encourage you to play with very light pressure on the bow and left hand fingers, and focus on releasing muscle tension.

Once you feel the relaxed muscles then you'll learn how the weight of the arm can be applied to play with full tone.

When the left hand fingers press lightly they can easily adjust intonation and move faster.

Those aspects would need to be practiced as little exercises.

The Swallowtail jig is missing a few notes.

Jan 25, 2021 - 5:32:11 PM

Quincy

Belgium

36 posts since 1/16/2021

quote:
Originally posted by Old Scratch

Yes, you're off to a good start, for reasons the others have said - and good rhythm as well (although there's something a little of with Swallowtail - you've added or left out a beat or two; might want to check that. Unless you prefer it that way; in which case, leave it alone!).


Yes, I play mainly by ear, but have to admit I should better listen to the recordings of my teacher, who accompanies herself on the violin with an accordion (or piano)... I should cut up these recordings in pieces with the help of something like Kdenlive.  That I sometimes leave out a few notes (or start to add notes which are not on the sheet) is a result of trying to play the whole piece at once as soon as possible. My teacher mentions this from the beginning of the lesson, so it should be a big point of attention. I'm going to chop up the pieces I am supposed to study for next classes and give it a better try!  I work against the rhythm this way, as my teacher explained.

Edited by - Quincy on 01/25/2021 17:33:39

Jan 25, 2021 - 5:47:37 PM

Quincy

Belgium

36 posts since 1/16/2021

quote:
Originally posted by buckhenry

Good job on the fiddle, and you trained the Rottie well.

I would encourage you to play with very light pressure on the bow and left hand fingers, and focus on releasing muscle tension.

Once you feel the relaxed muscles then you'll learn how the weight of the arm can be applied to play with full tone.

When the left hand fingers press lightly they can easily adjust intonation and move faster.

Those aspects would need to be practiced as little exercises.

The Swallowtail jig is missing a few notes.


Thank you! The rottie is named Quincy ;-)

Missing notes yes, I'm working on it now, I will start to cut up every song into smaller pieces and edit the pieces repeated a few times after each other next together, so that I have a step-by-step recording too.  Too often I listen a few times to the whole song, then practise it from A to Z:  I go through the song all at once and start all over when making a mistake, this is not the way to practise I feel.

And also: my favorite YouTubers all have a way of chopping up songs into smaller pieces ... which tells me this is the way to go and I should drop my more enervating way of going through a song.

I will try to watch my left hand and release of muscle tension as you describe it  next practice session.

So far I was always looking for correction in my bow hand , I am right handed. My grip there is now a lot more flexible and loose than it was before, but I thought that the left hand needed more of a firm grip , so I am a bit surprised now.

Can't wait tot find out if concentrating on correcting my left hand now will have any effect....

Edited by - Quincy on 01/25/2021 17:48:37

Jan 25, 2021 - 6:21:08 PM
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11700 posts since 9/23/2009

You've been playing only six months???? Sounds like you are right on to me. Obviously loving it. Keep going...doing great! Thanks for sharing.

Jan 25, 2021 - 7:00:26 PM
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2253 posts since 8/23/2008

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Originally posted by Quincy
 

Can't wait tot find out if concentrating on correcting my left hand now will have any effect....


It would be best to concentrate on the 'release of tension' aspects with simple exercises because the tunes may take too much focus away from the actual purpose. Also, 'simple relaxation' exercises without the instrument may be of benefit. 'Firm grip' is not required to hold the bow or violin, or to press the fingers down, but just enough to create a good sound. All that is required is the 'minimal tension/pressure'  so to 'balance' the bow and violin. 

Jan 26, 2021 - 1:44:18 PM
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35 posts since 1/25/2021

I think thats great especially after just six months

Jan 26, 2021 - 3:18:44 PM
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5012 posts since 9/26/2008

Another thing to do, rather than cutting the music up, is to just REALLY listen to the tune a lot so you can eventually "think" the tune by singing it or whistling it. This helps you internalize the tune which in turn helps you with phrasing (the little snips) and makes it so you can concentrate more on things like relaxation because you already ~know~ the tune. And seek out other recordings of the tune, maybe ask your instructor for suggestions. This shows you what else can happen with a tune and gives your mind a little variety of the same tune to absorb. Sounds like you are on your way to being a solid fiddler.

Jan 26, 2021 - 3:20:11 PM
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5012 posts since 9/26/2008

Ending on an upbow is how lots of old time fiddlers do it. laugh

Jan 26, 2021 - 8:27:57 PM
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Quincy

Belgium

36 posts since 1/16/2021

Thank you Black and Chickenman! Feeling better on the upbow now too laugh

Edited by - Quincy on 01/26/2021 20:28:55

Jan 27, 2021 - 11:23:48 AM
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1471 posts since 4/6/2014

Like ChickenMan says, especially with Irish stuff. Being able to "lilt" (Diddle, or sing the tune), is almost essential IMO. Personally  I can't play a tune until i can Lilt it.

PS:  The lilting doesn't have to be in tune ... Only in my head...wink

Jan 27, 2021 - 9:21:45 PM
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Quincy

Belgium

36 posts since 1/16/2021

quote:
Originally posted by pete_fiddle

Like ChickenMan says, especially with Irish stuff. Being able to "lilt" (Diddle, or sing the tune), is almost essential IMO. Personally  I can't play a tune until i can Lilt it.

PS:  The lilting doesn't have to be in tune ... Only in my head...wink

I love to do this! Very good advice ... takes not a lot of effort and it is a lot of fun when driving my car with a usb stick with my favorite tunes plugged in.

 

 


Jan 28, 2021 - 5:30:51 AM
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5012 posts since 9/26/2008

Yes! I used to make cassette tapes (remember those) with the same tune on it about 20 times and play that while I drove. Now I can burn a CD and just hit the "repeat" button. With a 25 minute one way commute, one can quickly internalize a tune.

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