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Sep 25, 2020 - 3:36:44 PM
1304 posts since 7/26/2015

Here's another of my crazy ideas. Green tape strips on the fingerboard set half steps apart and red strips of tape set at the midpoints between the green strips.

Edited by - soppinthegravy on 09/25/2020 15:38:07

Sep 26, 2020 - 12:44:27 PM
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2643 posts since 9/13/2009

I don't understand the purpose? Quartertone scales?

I am highly skeptical of any of the tape methodology... as intervals get smaller it is probably very difficult to achieve any good results.

I think there are much better ways to address intonation.

Edited by - alaskafiddler on 09/26/2020 12:45:20

Sep 26, 2020 - 1:52:30 PM
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1819 posts since 8/27/2008

I'm not a fan of taping the finger board. Maybe just one or two places for a week or so for a new player that needs security. Beyond that you are reinforcing a reliance on the wrong system to achieve results. You're supposed to learn to use your fingers and ears, and the sooner the better, in my old cranky opinion.

Sep 26, 2020 - 2:11:45 PM
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967 posts since 6/26/2007

The only teacher I asked about tapes admitted that they were mostly for HER benefit, rather than the student's. I thought that was kind of lame. Tapes would not have helped me when I was starting because I quickly learned about where the fingers go and tapes would not have been more accurate. Virtually all the tapes I've seen (many) were not accurately placed anyway.

Sep 28, 2020 - 10:30:52 AM
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RichJ

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358 posts since 8/6/2013

Not sure why this tape subject keeps popping up on FHO. I always considered playing the fiddle a listening rather than visual experience therefore the tape idea seems silly. OK, I know the first few times a novice picks the thing up they have no idea where the fingers should go, but these days the internet supplies some pretty good graphics. After that "fine tuning" on finger position should be is done by listening not looking.

Sep 28, 2020 - 2:54:05 PM

571 posts since 8/10/2017

You can get this stick-on thing called a fiddle fretter. I bought one. It works great. You get two of them, a "stealth mode" one and one that you can see the frets. They are very light and don't really get in the way of being able to slide or anything like that. You get a fret for every note like a mandolin. The frets themselves are much smaller and lighter than frets on a mandolin. They're almost about as light as fishing line. Maybe you should consider something like this.

There was a guy who used to come to our jam now and then who played an actual fretted fiddle. It was really cool and he was awesome on it. He sounded like a pro and wasn't hindered from sounding as old-timey as anybody.

Sep 28, 2020 - 5:07:03 PM

11335 posts since 9/23/2009

i know taping or otherwiae marking frets is popular, but i always wonder if people can see the tape...i cant see much of where my left hand is when on the fiddle. my eyes dont bend out that way...lol.

Sep 29, 2020 - 12:49:42 AM

1304 posts since 7/26/2015

I can see how the tape method could cause issues. A lot of those guys talk about stuff in terms of finger number instead of pitch. Personally, the only places I really have wanted to put these "halfway mark" tapes are between G 5 & G# 5 and Bb 5 & B 5. I've been working on "Snowflake Reel"  to try to teach my fingers the difference between them.
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Originally posted by alaskafiddler

I don't understand the purpose? Quartertone scales?

I am highly skeptical of any of the tape methodology... as intervals get smaller it is probably very difficult to achieve any good results.

I think there are much better ways to address intonation.

 


Edited by - soppinthegravy on 09/29/2020 01:00:09

Sep 29, 2020 - 5:31:50 AM

2072 posts since 10/22/2007

quote:
Originally posted by soppinthegravy
I can see how the tape method could cause issues. A lot of those guys talk about stuff in terms of finger number instead of pitch. Personally, the only places I really have wanted to put these "halfway mark" tapes are between G 5 & G# 5 and Bb 5 & B 5. I've been working on "Snowflake Reel"  to try to teach my fingers the difference between them.

 


I'd get a piano app an find the phrase on it. Hearing the pitch in question related to the other notes in the phrase.  

Sep 29, 2020 - 10:54:41 AM

2643 posts since 9/13/2009

quote:
Originally posted by soppinthegravy
I can see how the tape method could cause issues. A lot of those guys talk about stuff in terms of finger number instead of pitch. Personally, the only places I really have wanted to put these "halfway mark" tapes are between G 5 & G# 5 and Bb 5 & B 5. I've been working on "Snowflake Reel"  to try to teach my fingers the difference between them.

 



As an alternative - focus on listening to the difference in sound quality, in the context of the music... then using that sound quality target to guide the finger.

Sep 29, 2020 - 11:01:38 AM

1304 posts since 7/26/2015

I've already been doing that. My fingerboard doesn't have any tape on it. 
quote:
Originally posted by alaskafiddler
quote:
Originally posted by soppinthegravy
I can see how the tape method could cause issues. A lot of those guys talk about stuff in terms of finger number instead of pitch. Personally, the only places I really have wanted to put these "halfway mark" tapes are between G 5 & G# 5 and Bb 5 & B 5. I've been working on "Snowflake Reel"  to try to teach my fingers the difference between them.

 



As an alternative - focus on listening to the difference in sound quality, in the context of the music... then using that sound quality target to guide the finger.

 


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