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Sep 13, 2020 - 4:01:14 PM
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8696 posts since 3/19/2009

Just joined the Facebook Page .. "FIDDLE AND DOUGH" , hosted by the well known fiddler,  Bruce Molsky.. I'm a closet bread baker and intend to get into it more this winter.. Apparently at least ONE other Hangout member besides me is a member ..that I know of.......We just visited a neighbor yesterday who has an outdoor, wood fired, oven.. He cooks sourdough loaves at 700 Degrees.. Dang, that is hot. My wife and I got three loaves and ate on just while walking home.. Hope to see some of you on that site..

This is only 'fiddle related' in that Bruce is the host and the site name includes the word 'FIDDLE"..

I suppose any complaints can be taken to the moderators and they can maybe move the topic somewhere else!!

Edited by - TuneWeaver on 09/13/2020 16:08:14

Sep 13, 2020 - 4:32:51 PM

8696 posts since 3/19/2009

Now that I'm 'MOTIVATED'.. I've started some sourdough starter.. something I haven't done in years.. ...Can't Wait to throw something into the oven..!

Sep 13, 2020 - 6:50:12 PM
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Old Scratch

Canada

612 posts since 6/22/2016

Darn! I thought this thread might give me some tips about how to make money with this darn thing ......

Sep 13, 2020 - 7:10:09 PM

8696 posts since 3/19/2009

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Originally posted by Old Scratch

Darn! I thought this thread might give me some tips about how to make money with this darn thing ......


Sell BREAD???  If you want Real FIDDLE AND DOUGH.... Go busking  frown

Sep 14, 2020 - 12:34:43 PM

8696 posts since 3/19/2009

Apparently there are at least FOUR of our Members participating in the Fiddle and Dough page.. I started Sourdough starter yesterday and it is Bubbling today..that is Good..

Sep 14, 2020 - 1:05:29 PM

11240 posts since 9/23/2009

I used to make sourdough everything, all the time...bread, waffles, cookies, biscuits, cobblers, etc., etc., etc. I had little buckets of starters all over the kitchen with names...various starters that behaved differently...most of them I caught wild...well, caught wild or sometimes with the help of taters or raisins, but usually just with flour. But anyhow...I haven't been able to eat bread for oh gosh...probably, I think I was about 52 when I finally made the discovery...lol...so a good 15 years. I really miss baking and catching the wild little beasts that make bread come to life.

I still make sauerkraut, and some other stuff like that...not nearly as much fun.  Bread is fun.  Fiddling is fun too.  The web site sounds good, but i belong to too many already...lol...not fiddling, but just stuff of various kinds.

Edited by - groundhogpeggy on 09/14/2020 13:07:02

Sep 14, 2020 - 1:09:20 PM

8696 posts since 3/19/2009

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Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

I used to make sourdough everything, all the time...bread, waffles, cookies, biscuits, cobblers, etc., etc., etc. I had little buckets of starters all over the kitchen with names...various starters that behaved differently...most of them I caught wild...well, caught wild or sometimes with the help of taters or raisins, but usually just with flour. But anyhow...I haven't been able to eat bread for oh gosh...probably, I think I was about 52 when I finally made the discovery...lol...so a good 15 years. I really miss baking and catching the wild little beasts that make bread come to life.

I still make sauerkraut, and some other stuff like that...not nearly as much fun.


Kraut!! Yess.. I've done that.. and yes, I set out traps to catch WILD YEAST... for sourdough starter..

Anyhouz... I thought that this topic could maybe evolve into something to challenge members who are stressed out from Covid.. Anything that brings people together at this time is good.. I've made great bread and have made fiasco bread.. !! Lets see what bread Members can make..??

Sep 14, 2020 - 1:22:43 PM

8696 posts since 3/19/2009

FYI.. I have asked the moderators to move this topic to the NOT fiddle related forum.. since it is about  Baking..!!! really.. We'll see if they go along.. I could just start another topic there. (or ONE OF YOU couldwink)...   but It might be fun to keep it going "Wherever!!

OR... join the Bruce Molsky sponsored Facebook page  Fiddle and Dough......

Edited by - TuneWeaver on 09/14/2020 13:27:23

Sep 14, 2020 - 1:40:22 PM
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Originally posted by Old Scratch

Darn! I thought this thread might give me some tips about how to make money with this darn thing ......


Imagine my surprise when i found out it has nothing to do with Homer Simpson. sad 

Sep 14, 2020 - 1:54:49 PM

8696 posts since 3/19/2009

THIS is my latest Facebook post: "High school was pretty fun for me.. I did well in physics and chemistry.. but Sourdough Starter should really have been a separate class..........From what I can tell.. Discussing Sourdough can only be done if one has a PHD in... "I'm a Sourdough Bread Baker.".......Just sayin'. and, AND, I'm going to spring for the $300 Dutch Oven to bake the bread in (RIGHT!!!)..?? I'll do things the LEE way and see what I get.."

Sep 14, 2020 - 2:32:42 PM

4834 posts since 9/26/2008

Who's spending 300 for a Dutch Oven?!? 30 bucks for cast iron at Walmart, and it is worth it for that blistered caramelized crust that only close heat with lots of steam will give you (the loaf steams itself in the D.O. hassle-free).

Edited by - ChickenMan on 09/14/2020 14:33:35

Sep 14, 2020 - 2:34:45 PM
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Who's spending 300 for a Dutch Oven?!? 30 bucks for cast iron at Walmart, and it is worth it for that blistered caramelized crust that only close heat with lots of steam will give you (the loaf steams itself in the D.O. hassle-free).


EXACTLY  and not I'm $300 ahead!!! but not buying it.!!

Sep 14, 2020 - 4:46:15 PM
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11240 posts since 9/23/2009

I used to bake mine in coffee cans...back when there were metal one-lb coffee cans.

I also made sourdough donuts too. Just all kinds of stuff...cakes, crackers...just everything. I used to bake all the time.  I would today if it wouldn't kill me to eat it...lol.  Not fun, so...now I bake pumpkin or butternut squash...I think that's about it, unless I'm forgetting something.

Edited by - groundhogpeggy on 09/14/2020 16:47:26

Sep 14, 2020 - 7:47:24 PM
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11240 posts since 9/23/2009

brownies. Cobblers...or did I say that already? Yummy...you can do anything with flour and water...lol...plus a few bugs and other ingredients.

Sep 15, 2020 - 3:27:49 PM
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well, flourless, grainless me...I've got "bread" in the oven right at this moment...very nervous about it...I mean, it's all just weird ideas of non-bread things that might wanna imitate bread...lol. It smells funny baking...we'll see if it makes me a pizza crust...if not...pork chops tonight. If it makes a decent pizza crust...LOOK OUT!!!! (yes, I'm shouting!)

Sep 16, 2020 - 2:43:54 PM

8696 posts since 3/19/2009

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Originally posted by groundhogpeggy

well, flourless, grainless me...I've got "bread" in the oven right at this moment...very nervous about it...I mean, it's all just weird ideas of non-bread things that might wanna imitate bread...lol. It smells funny baking...we'll see if it makes me a pizza crust...if not...pork chops tonight. If it makes a decent pizza crust...LOOK OUT!!!! (yes, I'm shouting!)


Isn't it funny that in EVERY CULTURE IN THE WORLD, they make some sort of bread.....and here we are .. learning from scratch!!! and AND... maybe getting something that sort of, in a way, maybe, kinda' resembles BREAD..!!!laugh

Edited by - TuneWeaver on 09/16/2020 14:44:58

Sep 16, 2020 - 4:27:54 PM

8696 posts since 3/19/2009

Why doesn't Fleischman's make a sourdough yeast???? (or DO they?)

Sep 16, 2020 - 6:01:25 PM

11240 posts since 9/23/2009

Mine wasn't too good. It's impossible to make bread without grains. I'm about ready to just stop trying.

Sep 16, 2020 - 6:59:34 PM
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Originally posted by TuneWeaver

Why doesn't Fleischman's make a sourdough yeast???? (or DO they?)


I thought the whole sourdough deal was that you didn't need yeast--it's in the mess and just keeps on going by feeding with more grain and water.  Same as sour mash or slops--don't need to buy anything to make your whiskey

Sep 17, 2020 - 4:55:50 AM

8696 posts since 3/19/2009

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Originally posted by TuneWeaver

Why doesn't Fleischman's make a sourdough yeast???? (or DO they?)


I thought the whole sourdough deal was that you didn't need yeast--it's in the mess and just keeps on going by feeding with more grain and water.  Same as sour mash or slops--don't need to buy anything to make your whiskey


You have failed to see my attempt a humor..as have others...wink

Sep 17, 2020 - 5:19:36 AM

8696 posts since 3/19/2009

Nicely, several people have offered to GIVE me some of their 'starter'..but that is the easy way---I"d rather learn to do it myself, and WILL... There is a lot to learn as evidenced by the myriad of Youtube videos on the subject. It reminds me of FIDDLING... ''difficult in its simplicity."..sure, the bow just goes up and down, is that all there is to it? laugh ( Can I get a 'like'?)

Edited by - TuneWeaver on 09/17/2020 05:26:25

Sep 17, 2020 - 6:55:36 AM

4834 posts since 9/26/2008

quote:
Originally posted by TuneWeaver

Why doesn't Fleischman's make a sourdough yeast???? (or DO they?)


Because the critters that make up your starter are more than just yeast. Commercial yeast is made to be uniform and consistent in performance. Your starter included bacteria. A store bought, "commercial" sourdough bread more often than not contains added ingredients that give it what to me is an obvious artificially soured flavor because that are rarely made from actual sourdough cultures. 

Sep 17, 2020 - 7:00:46 AM

4834 posts since 9/26/2008

You should use smileys when you're joking Lee, otherwise it does seem like you are honestly musing out loud, so to speak.

Also, knowing what I know about it, if I were you I'd take them up on the offer because a dried starter comes to life quickly and your can be baking in a few days rather than the weeks it takes to get a wild caught starter to take and gain the strength needed to raise bread dough.

Sep 17, 2020 - 7:15:27 AM

11240 posts since 9/23/2009

Lee, I thought you already made sourdough all the time. It's really easy...the bugs are flying all around seeking out places to form colonies ...you know, just like covid...lol...bad, bad example. But if you set out anything, they come to live there and start their communities. Set out cabbage and salt and they come to make sauerkraut, set out cucumbers in brine and they come to make pickles...etc., etc., etc., and set out flour and water and they come to make sourdough. Some critters make better starter than others...which is why I always had several different containers that captured different bugs and named them all...you can keep your favorites that you catch (like goin' fishin' or something) in the freezer and get it out when you want to use that. You can catch them with raisins and water...you'll get something that looks and smells like the granulated fast acting yeast you can buy in a package...or taters in water...etc. But just flour and water will do it...you can add sugar if you wanna put out a special invitation to certain critters...they are there and they will come to check out whatever you have out for them. No need to ever buy yeast...it's all around us and easy to harness. Some tastes better than others...you find one you really like...get that starter in the freezer to keep as your special starter forever. I wish I could eat the stuff again...grains don't like me. I love them. It's easy to catch the bugs you need though...commercial yeast is a waste...if you're gonna ever use it, the kind that comes in a block, like cheese, is much better. But no need to buy what's already there. They are looking for you right now...set out an invitation for them! Give it a name...try it...then after a few weeks set out another invitation and see who shows up for that one. It's really amazing. I really miss doing that. I'm gonna make my awful fake pizza dough again tonight...yuck...at least it's pizza. Sorta. I went for over a year with absolutely no grains, then started making waffles and pizza, hand pies and cobblers and stuff again using masa flour, which supposedly is easier to digest because it's like hominy, you know...been treated with lime...but apparently the masa flour decided it didn't like me...so...back to no grains at all for me...yuck. I miss the good stuff. But set out the invitation and you will get visited by the critters who perform the miracle of bread.

Sep 17, 2020 - 7:16:04 AM

8696 posts since 3/19/2009

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Originally posted by ChickenMan

You should use smileys when you're joking Lee, otherwise it does seem like you are honestly musing out loud, so to speak.

Also, knowing what I know about it, if I were you I'd take them up on the offer because a dried starter comes to life quickly and your can be baking in a few days rather than the weeks it takes to get a wild caught starter to take and gain the strength needed to raise bread dough.


I started 'starter' a few days ago... I'm getting bubbles and feeding regularly... I'm not one to give up easily, although I have been known to do so.

Sep 17, 2020 - 7:19:59 AM

8696 posts since 3/19/2009

Peggy, I made sourdough starter "back in the day" when I was a back-to-the-land-er... but it's been so long ago that I've lost that touch.. I'll get'er back though.. And, frankly, I don't recall being very good at it..

Edited by - TuneWeaver on 09/17/2020 07:20:58

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