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Aug 19, 2020 - 4:56:49 PM
2 posts since 3/26/2018

When someone says they are playing in the key of A or the key of B this really confuses me. Is there a good chart or book that explains the chords?

Aug 19, 2020 - 6:40:12 PM

2253 posts since 10/22/2007

Mel Bay has a book entitled "Fiddle Chords." May or may not be still in print? Can't imagine why it would not.

Aug 20, 2020 - 4:34:07 AM
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carlb

USA

2307 posts since 2/2/2008

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Originally posted by farmerjones

Mel Bay has a book entitled "Fiddle Chords." May or may not be still in print? Can't imagine why it would not.


If this is the book you mean, there's lots of copies out there for not much money.

https://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac=sl&st=sl&ref=bf_s2_a3_t1_10&qi=ZxcYzISlBzuj5qV4nnDM,Tl0CUM_1497963026_1:18:3&bq=author%3Dcraig%2520duncan%26title%3Dfiddling%2520chord%2520book

Aug 20, 2020 - 4:38:31 AM
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Swing

USA

2009 posts since 6/26/2007

Don't go buying a book, here is a site that will give you all the information that you need pertaining to Keys and chords....select a Key and it will give you the chords

guitar-chords.org.uk/chords-key-e.html

Play Happy

Swing

Aug 20, 2020 - 6:09:20 AM
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2336 posts since 10/1/2008

That Mel Bay chord book is exceptionally detailed and probably more than you want to deal with. What chords go with what keys is more likely to be helpful information. In most "folk" type music there are three primary chords and three secondary chords. Most western music is based around the I (one) IV (four) and V ( five) chords. The secondary ( less often used) chords are the VI ( six) minor and the II ( two) major or minor. Yes the III (three) VI (six) major and VII ( seven) are used just not often. So. ...... the key of "C" is called .... the most likely chords will be C, F and G in the C scale ... C D E F G A B C the I, IV and V are the first fourth and fifth "degrees" of the C scale. Sooooo  here are the chords listed in their relationships. Any mandolin chord chart will show the same chords as used on a fiddle. Enjoy the process ... it can last a lifetime. R/ 

Aug 20, 2020 - 2:26:27 PM

2253 posts since 10/22/2007

The root/I, IV, & V, chords in D, G, A, C, & E are good solid essentials, granted. On a fiddle, seeing how you can only get two of the three tones of a chord, those seem like they are all over the fingerboard. Voicings are what they're called. For every three note chord, there are three iterations or inversions. I didn't know i was using a rootless inversion until i started learning chords on a piano. I guess what i don't know is how far down the rabbit-hole one wants to go? I didn't learn piano to intensionally advance my chord theory, but it did.

Aug 20, 2020 - 2:28:36 PM

1774 posts since 12/11/2008

I don't know if this is what you truly need to get into gear, but a healthy majority of Old Time fiddle tunes can be backed up pretty much with just two chords.

If a fiddler shouts "Let's play in A!", start off strumming an A Chord. When the time is right (don't worry, after a couple verses your ear will tell you when), switch to an E Chord. When your ear tells you, go back to the A Chord.

If a fiddler shouts "We're doing D tunes!", start off with the D. Then, when your ear tells you, go to an A Chord. Then back again.

If the fiddler yells G, start off with a G and alternate it with the D.

BTW, what you are doing here is alternating the I Chord (aka the Tonic) with the V (or Dominant). Chord numbers, by-the-way, are written as Roman Numerals.

If you're a Do-Re-Mi type thinker, think of the Tonic/I chord as "Do" and the Dominant/V chord as "So." Do-Re-Mi-Fa-So...

Good luck! Have fun!

Aug 20, 2020 - 4:45:58 PM
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260 posts since 12/2/2013

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Originally posted by farmerjones

..........For every three note chord, there are three iterations or inversions. I didn't know i was using a rootless inversion until i started learning chords on a piano......


Here's the six shapes,


Aug 20, 2020 - 6:24:42 PM
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644 posts since 8/10/2017

You'll need the D chord for A tunes and the G chord for D tunes and the C chord for G tunes every now and then. Not just the I and V chords but also the IV. Sometimes you don't but lots of times you do.

Aug 21, 2020 - 3:17:53 PM

tluncan

USA

15 posts since 7/8/2014

I’m working on chords as well. Found mel bay chords book used and I do like it. Also watched Jam With Lauren chords walk through. She wrote an e book that is very well done. Goes over key signatures, arpeggios and chords. Teaches a process to find chords in any key.

Aug 21, 2020 - 4:44:55 PM
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1879 posts since 8/27/2008

It's great to play a chord instrument, and many of us play mandolin. If you get a mandolin for learning chords things on the fiddle would make sense faster.

Aug 21, 2020 - 5:35:34 PM

644 posts since 8/10/2017

I think over time you learn the chords naturally. At least two-finger chords.

Aug 21, 2020 - 6:56:44 PM

360 posts since 6/11/2019

quote:
Originally posted by mmuussiiccaall
quote:
Originally posted by farmerjones

..........For every three note chord, there are three iterations or inversions. I didn't know i was using a rootless inversion until i started learning chords on a piano......


Here's the six shapes,

 

 


Thanks for this.  Shapes are a MUST learn.  Unless you're memorizing a concerto from notation--PATTERNS and SHAPES, is all that matters on the fiddle fingerboard.  It's like a checkerboard, it just continues up, just like on a mandolin.  Keys only repeat the shapes:  A is G-shape plus 2, F is G-shape minus 2; Bb is C-shape minus 1; B is C-shape minus 1/2, etc

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