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Mar 28, 2020 - 10:25:35 AM
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115 posts since 11/24/2018

youtu.be/iAs4YfGZeks

Please. Any constructive criticism is welcome.

Mar 28, 2020 - 11:48:45 AM
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bsed

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4050 posts since 6/23/2007

Your bowing is nice & straight, not hitting unintended strings, good sound volume, I like your intonation.

What I'd suggest is that you learn how to relax more. You look kind of hunched over, very tense.

Try to keep your head up, and try to straighten out your spine by bringing your shoulders back. Practicing in front of a mirror could be a big help.

Edited by - bsed on 03/28/2020 11:50:01

Mar 28, 2020 - 3:26:55 PM
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1346 posts since 4/6/2014

My twopence worth

Pros: Intonation good, timing good,clarity and volume good, playing at the lower 3rd of the bow (towards the frog) Great!, attitude/confidence good (or you wouldn't have posted).

 Cons: Whole bowing arm, shoulder, elbow ,  wrist (not so much), and fingers need to have more movement and be more relaxed. i would start at the fingers and get them moving then work back towards the shoulder. (have a look at some fiddlers fingers on you tube etc.) And practice playing a little more towards the middle/tip of the bow rather than towards the frog. But don't lose the natural control that you have towards the frog ( lower 3rd of the bow)... That's where your power and clarity are coming from.

PS: a reality check for me as well ...i need to do the same, but i don't have control over the lower 3rd of the bow like you do.

Mar 28, 2020 - 7:55:33 PM
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117 posts since 6/11/2019

Use more bow. Upper half is easier for tone, middle easier for fast string-crossings, heel for percussive strokes like BG kickoffs and chopping. Playing melody entirely on bottom 1/3rd gets squirrely and increases pinky and therefore hand tension--your enemy. Wherever your arm forms a right angle is the best 'home plate' to average out to.

Bow should always be 'pulled', not pushed, on both up and down bow. Fingers need to be supple and behave like they are strings tied to the bow, and change shape between pulling up and down.

Good job, overall, though. I enjoyed it, keep it up!

I wonder where you learned the tune? Never heard it around the Ozarks. 'Lost Indian' is common, though. I wish y'all would quit giving me new songs to learn.

Mar 29, 2020 - 1:28:19 AM

115 posts since 11/24/2018

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Originally posted by Flat_the_3rd_n7th

Use more bow. Upper half is easier for tone, middle easier for fast string-crossings, heel for percussive strokes like BG kickoffs and chopping. Playing melody entirely on bottom 1/3rd gets squirrely and increases pinky and therefore hand tension--your enemy. Wherever your arm forms a right angle is the best 'home plate' to average out to.

Bow should always be 'pulled', not pushed, on both up and down bow. Fingers need to be supple and behave like they are strings tied to the bow, and change shape between pulling up and down.

Good job, overall, though. I enjoyed it, keep it up!

I wonder where you learned the tune? Never heard it around the Ozarks. 'Lost Indian' is common, though. I wish y'all would quit giving me new songs to learn.


I heard it most recently on the new Scott Prouty record released by the Old Time Tiki Parlor, but I realized that i already played this exact version - which is different from other versions - on the banjo. I dont know where Scott Prouty learned his version, but i learned it thanks to a guy named Mark Weems who adapted the old Knauff Virginia Reels for banjo

Mar 29, 2020 - 5:37:43 AM

115 posts since 11/24/2018

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Originally posted by bsed

Your bowing is nice & straight, not hitting unintended strings, good sound volume, I like your intonation.

What I'd suggest is that you learn how to relax more. You look kind of hunched over, very tense.

Try to keep your head up, and try to straighten out your spine by bringing your shoulders back. Practicing in front of a mirror could be a big help.


Thanks for the advice. I don't have a mirror in my practise space, but its why I decided to film myself. Actually this morning, I'm feeling really sore, but its the kind of soreness that I know comes with having tensed up muscles for too long. I'm going to have to learn how to remain cool.

Mar 29, 2020 - 6:29:10 AM

bsed

USA

4050 posts since 6/23/2007

I know there's a tune Flying Indian that banjo players play in a "Flying Indian tuning". I don't know if this is that tune.

Mar 30, 2020 - 5:55:23 PM

10770 posts since 9/23/2009

Sounds good! I'm not comfortable giving advice...lol...I need about 50 more years of practice...there's this old story about a lady who took her son to some wise holy man, and asked the man to get her son to quit eating sugar. The wise man stroked his beard with a serious look on his face, sitting there with the boy at his feet, incense blowing around, and finally said..."Boy, come back in three days!" Three days later, the lady brought her son back...the wise man said, "Son, stop eating sugar!" The lady was shocked..."Why didn't you just tell him that three days ago?" "Because," the old wise man said, "I had to first stop eating sugar, myself." LOL...ok it's been a long time ago I heard that story, but in my case, offering music advice is like me telling somebody not to do the same stuff I'm sure I do too.

Anyhow, that being said, I think it's sounding very good. I can't tell if you're stiff or not...can't see it that good on the video, but I will say for sure everybody learning on any instrument is stiff and unrelaxed for quite a while with it...so...if you haven't gotten past the point where you get tired of stiffing up when you play, then, yeah...maybe you're too stiff, but seems to me that's a question of time spent on the instrument. IF that's the case. One thing, though, that for me would be different...but who's to say my way would be the right way, for someone else or maybe for anybody...I like playing with the other part of my bow ...that is to say, I'd be uncomfortable playing down toward the frog...more comfortable playing more up the other way, though not all the way up.

But my way might not be the right way. Still, over time, not long, only something like 11 years of fiddling for me now...but for me over these 11 years...I've come to just know which part of the bow I want for which things. Nothing I could say or even figure out...it's just the familiarity that comes with time...sometimes I want the frog end, sometimes the tip, but a lot of the playing happens in the upper middle of the bow for me...wasn't always like that, but seems it just naturally went that way with time spent on the instrument and when a certain comfort level was reached.

Again...might be, and probably is, different for everybody, and also for different styles of playing...so, honestly I don't know.  I do think your fiddling is sounding good. Thanks for sharing!  I should've left it at that!  You're doing good!

Edited by - groundhogpeggy on 03/30/2020 17:58:02

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