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Jan 20, 2020 - 8:08:51 PM
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11224 posts since 9/23/2009

I did this one a little while back, but probably will be doing it at a little local gig thing next month. Just in doing it in person I guess it'll just be flatout guitar, singing, and nothing else...which seems kinda dull to me after having so much fun adding everything on the Presonus machine.

youtu.be/QSeDOZUaiEQ

Jan 21, 2020 - 3:10:38 AM

loy

USA

930 posts since 6/23/2007

Great job Peggy!

Jan 21, 2020 - 10:29:54 AM

3046 posts since 6/21/2007

Nice job, Peggy. I really need to take an afternoon and listen to everything you've put up.

Jan 21, 2020 - 5:43:23 PM

LukeF

USA

58 posts since 10/15/2019

Very well done Peggy. I liked it.

Jan 21, 2020 - 8:03:10 PM

11224 posts since 9/23/2009

Thanks, guys. I guess with the little gig coming up my big problem is sorta how or if I make myself backup tracks so I don't just sit and play the guitar only. I used to be happy enough doing that, but the Presonus has me pretty spoiled now...so...if I record guitar to go with this or similar songs, then when we sing it (daughter sings with me), I just sit there holding onto the fiddle until a break comes along...or if I put fiddle breaks on the backup track, then I play guitar and just keep playing while the fiddle break comes from nobody in the room...lol. If it was just a fiddle tune...I'd just put up a backup track and then fiddle all the way through...I'll do some of those...but the rest are hard to know how to handle in that situation.

Jan 23, 2020 - 3:07:08 AM

166 posts since 4/15/2019

sounds great! How long you been playing?

Jan 23, 2020 - 4:38:18 AM

11224 posts since 9/23/2009

Thanks so much, John. I messed around with borrowed fiddles on and off for decades, but didn't have my own and time to sit down and try to learn until 11 years ago. But I've played guitar for 56 years and banjo almost as long.

Jan 23, 2020 - 7:50:22 AM

DougD

USA

9763 posts since 12/2/2007

So are you going to prepare backup tracks to perform with? That seems like a whole other can of worms! Does your daughter play guitar? If not, maybe you should teach her.

Jan 23, 2020 - 10:46:02 AM

11224 posts since 9/23/2009

No she doesn't play. She can slam out a few things on clawhammer banjo, but not a whole lot. Basically she sings and I do the vocal harmonies and play the instruments. It's tough trying to figure out how to make any backup tracks because I can't figure out how to make that work out...lol. I did make a few tracks for fiddle tunes...she can clawhammer along and I can play the fiddle...so it's the guitar and bass to just hold it all together good...not sure how helpful it is. I made one for TN Waltz, and when we did it I just held onto the fiddle until the fiddle break fame along...that was awkward...lol

Jan 24, 2020 - 8:45:04 AM

bsed

USA

4084 posts since 6/23/2007

I would have loved to add a mandolin part to this. In my old band I'd always play mando to my friend, Jim's, fiddle & vocals. It was always my favorite song in our playlist!

Nice job!

Jan 24, 2020 - 9:01:45 AM

11224 posts since 9/23/2009

One thing I've never played or even touched before is a mandolin...I wish you could play a part for me...lol. I don't have one and have no idea how to play one. They do add a lot though. It is such a gret song, isn't it?

Jan 27, 2020 - 4:31:14 PM

166 posts since 4/15/2019

I started playing guitar 63 years ago and harmonica about 60 yrs ago. Started fiddle 1&1/2 yrs ago at age 75. Love bluegrass!

Jan 27, 2020 - 4:36:27 PM
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166 posts since 4/15/2019

peggy You say you would like to play mandolin. You should give it a try. My son has one but does not play it. I was foolin around with it awhile back. It notes the same as a fiddle. Also tunes the same. I had never tried one before but found I could get thru Old Joe Clark because the notes were on the same strings and frets as a fiddle. You will be surprised at whay you alresdy might be able to do with it.

Jan 27, 2020 - 5:11 PM

11224 posts since 9/23/2009

Thanks...I'll have to try it one day. Any I've seen are pretty expensive...so I'll keep a lookout for something affordable.

Jan 27, 2020 - 5:33:33 PM

DougD

USA

9763 posts since 12/2/2007

Peggy, even though the mandolin is tuned like a fiddle, its a completely different playing technique. Also different from the guitar - its its own instrument.
Here's a version of this song by a master of the mandolin: youtu.be/LI92oDdXazg

Jan 28, 2020 - 10:07:51 AM

11224 posts since 9/23/2009

Yeah, well, he sure knew how to play a cool mando. I'm not too good with a flatpick, in fact, I'm terrible with a flatpick...so....maybe some day in another universe, somehow, maybe i'd figure it all out one day.

By the way, I always used to play this differently, until I got ahold of the movie Dwight Diller and John Morris made, themselves, acted and played in...about the struggles of choosing between one's mountain life and the urban temptations, to earn a real living and get into all of that horrible migration stuff, etc. , called The Fifth String...which I highly recommend for anyone who loves old time music played by the real deal...Dwight on banjo and John on fiddle. Two of the best...the music runs througout the video and there are times they are shown playing. But anyhow, in that movie...and I'm not a movie person...lol...this is just more true-to-life than contrived movie...but when Dwight returns back home to the WV mountains, they are playing Poor Wayfaring Stranger...don't know who's got the guitar, but Dwight is singing. This is a different way than I've ever heard it or played it...I loved that guitar so much I started playing it that way myself. I don't think the guitar is prominent enough in the video I shared here, but I think I've done it somewhere on youtube with just guitar...I love the way it goes with the song.

Jan 28, 2020 - 10:37:26 AM
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3046 posts since 6/21/2007

I thought about attempting the Mandolin, but, I've never been able to use picks at all. Everything I've played has been fingerstyle (Clawhammer on banjo), with the fiddle being the exception.

Jan 28, 2020 - 1:56:27 PM
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11224 posts since 9/23/2009

Me too, Fred...I do use a thumbpick on guitar. I used to use fingerpicks too, when I played here and there and struggled for volume...but I like it better with two bare fingers and a thumbpick.

Jan 28, 2020 - 3:22:26 PM
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166 posts since 4/15/2019

I didn't say it wasn't a different insturment. But not completely different. You will have to master the double picking and all but even without that you can play simple versions of songs by noting it the same as a fiddle. I know, I did it. My brother used to play the mandolin.

Jan 28, 2020 - 5:01:33 PM

11224 posts since 9/23/2009

John, if i ever did get one and learn to play, it would probably just be learning to chop and play chords.

Jan 29, 2020 - 5:21:49 AM
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DougD

USA

9763 posts since 12/2/2007

Peggy, you don't have to use a flatpick. The late Kenny Hall used his fingers and you could always hear him. He also played a "tater big" type instrument and I think you can still find them for not too much money. fresnofolklore.org/artist_prof...hall.html

Jan 29, 2020 - 6:58:06 AM

4826 posts since 9/26/2008

This mandolins are a pain in the A. to hold while playing. 

Jan 29, 2020 - 10:54:46 AM

3046 posts since 6/21/2007

My brother got to play with Kenny back in the 70's when he was at Fresno State (my brother, not Kenny).

Jan 29, 2020 - 11:59:40 AM

11224 posts since 9/23/2009

Oh, that sounds cool, Doug...I really like that.

Jan 29, 2020 - 4:40:35 PM
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DougD

USA

9763 posts since 12/2/2007

Peggy, here's a living room recording including Kenny Hall. I think there are nine people playing (including another mandolin) but the bright sweet sound is Kenny.


Jan 29, 2020 - 5:30:45 PM
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DougD

USA

9763 posts since 12/2/2007

BTW, in the article about Kenny Hall, the artist who made the engraving, Harry Liedstrand, is also one of the three fiddlers in my recording.

Edited by - DougD on 01/29/2020 17:31:52

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