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Understanding Of Fiddle Improvisation By Intervals

Sep 28, 2019 - 8:02:42 PM
257 posts since 12/2/2013

This will be an experiment in using different recorded fiddle licks in order to break down the nuts and bolts of them by using the MASTER CHART provided. Each lick will be shown in all twelve keys in standard notation, TAB and most importantly in INTERVALLIC LANGUAGE. Hopefully this will explain the vast majority of what is heard in the world of improvisation. I have listed twenty-some common licks that are used and I will show their use by a red number in the INTERVALLIC LANGUAGE pic.

I could have made 12 separate charts the represent the keys but I've found my students overwhelmed with details so I came up with an all in one chart.
The master chart shows the location of the steps of the scale for all 12 keys in a SLIDE RULE type fashion. It's a matter of eye placement not finger placement. Let's say we're in the key of D and we all know that we have a D string open on the fiddle. So we go to the chart and look up and down on the D string for a 1. Once we find that number we visualize it as open in our mind and anything above it on the chart is disregarded . Notice the letter D hanging out to the left at that spot, that's what tells us that those pitches directly to the right of the letter D are open. BTW we must also disregard the eleven other key markers on the left.


Sep 28, 2019 - 8:10:53 PM

2246 posts since 8/23/2008

Interesting; two note licks, but what is... 'play intervals mandolin style'..?

Sep 28, 2019 - 8:31:01 PM
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257 posts since 12/2/2013

First up is a song requested by Blue20Boy18 called HELLO LONELY by Del McCoury with Jason Carter on fiddle in the key of D. The lick I picked is a fiddle break between the vocal that lasts for two measures. Original metronome marking is 152 which would rule out a lot of fiddlers so I cut the speed in half for learning purposes.


Sep 28, 2019 - 9:03:37 PM

257 posts since 12/2/2013

quote:
Originally posted by buckhenry

Interesting; two note licks, but what is... 'play intervals mandolin style'..?


Sorry Henry, it took a half hour to get my song post up!

Sep 29, 2019 - 12:48 PM

8886 posts since 3/19/2009

Interesting.. I'm still trying to NOT play two strings when I want to play just one, and also I'm trying to play a 'unison' in tune!!!! I truly admire people who know WTH they are doing.."lick-wise"...No joke.. Some of you are just SO talented.. !!!smiley

Sep 29, 2019 - 7:45:22 PM
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bitman

USA

16 posts since 9/1/2019

Thank you for this.

Dec 6, 2019 - 7:17:29 AM
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4289 posts since 6/23/2007

The original post got me interested in refreshing my memory on intervals. So I went to Youtube and found an excellent relatively short instructional. So I will be watching this video before I begin playing. I probably should watch the video a couple of times each week. A matter of "use it or lose it".

Dec 6, 2019 - 1:09:39 PM

2246 posts since 8/23/2008

What is the idea of the letters running in opposite direction to the numbers.?

Dec 6, 2019 - 1:25:34 PM

2544 posts since 7/12/2013

quote:
Originally posted by Dick Hauser

The original post got me interested in refreshing my memory on intervals. So I went to Youtube and found an excellent relatively short instructional. So I will be watching this video before I begin playing. I probably should watch the video a couple of times each week. A matter of "use it or lose it".


Can you post the video?

Dec 6, 2019 - 1:27:29 PM
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2544 posts since 7/12/2013

quote:
Originally posted by mmuussiiccaall

First up is a song requested by Blue20Boy18 called HELLO LONELY by Del McCoury with Jason Carter on fiddle in the key of D. The lick I picked is a fiddle break between the vocal that lasts for two measures. Original metronome marking is 152 which would rule out a lot of fiddlers so I cut the speed in half for learning purposes.


Nice I like that little lick, i'll have to go look up the whole song.

Dec 6, 2019 - 2:16:02 PM

257 posts since 12/2/2013

quote:
Originally posted by buckhenry

What is the idea of the letters running in opposite direction to the numbers.?


Hey Henry look at the chart as if all you want to know is the interval of the E string open in the different keys. Look directly to the left for these answers

A5

B4

C3

D2

E1

F7

G6

Dec 6, 2019 - 2:43:29 PM

2246 posts since 8/23/2008

Thanks Richard, you stumped me with the enharmonics again... because I see E natural as a sharp 6 in the key of Gb... but, tis a trivial matter.

Dec 6, 2019 - 3:29:05 PM
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257 posts since 12/2/2013

quote:
Originally posted by buckhenry

Thanks Richard, you stumped me with the enharmonics again... because I see E natural as a sharp 6 in the key of Gb... but, tis a trivial matter.


this is what I see in my mind's eye with the open strings functioning as b3 & b7 blue notes


 

Dec 7, 2019 - 3:01:47 PM

2246 posts since 8/23/2008

Last time I played in Gb the guitarist said, "oh, I'm playing in F#."

Dec 7, 2019 - 7:14:06 PM

257 posts since 12/2/2013

quote:
Originally posted by buckhenry

Last time I played in Gb the guitarist said, "oh, I'm playing in F#."


I used to do that when I was a young player because I could always move up a fret with sharps but sometimes I would run out of frets when thinking in flats, open minus 1 kinda thing.

Dec 7, 2019 - 9:36:40 PM

2246 posts since 8/23/2008

quote:
Originally posted by mmuussiiccaall

 


I used to do that when I was a young player 


Oh, don't you play any more....?

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