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Aug 21, 2019 - 8:51:18 AM
828 posts since 8/4/2011

Ever get in a jam and someone will call out a tune then people are like, I don't know that version?

For example Cumberland Gap has what seems like a million versions.

How I solve it is switch to my guitar. lol

Edited by - MOFiddlin on 08/21/2019 08:57:20

Aug 21, 2019 - 6:47:19 PM
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4198 posts since 9/26/2008

Depends on the people. Some can adapt and are into learning a new version on the fly; others just look at you and you play it three times aaand your done.
I am both people at different times.

Aug 22, 2019 - 2:09:36 AM
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Jimbeaux

Germany

265 posts since 5/24/2016

I've been playing with a banjo player this summer who is willing and able to play new tunes on the fly. It's really great to play with someone like that, but it makes me jealous that I can't do the same thing on banjo!

Aug 22, 2019 - 2:09:45 AM
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Jimbeaux

Germany

265 posts since 5/24/2016

or fiddle...

Aug 22, 2019 - 2:31:47 PM
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828 posts since 8/4/2011

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Originally posted by Jimbeaux

I've been playing with a banjo player this summer who is willing and able to play new tunes on the fly. It's really great to play with someone like that, but it makes me jealous that I can't do the same thing on banjo!


I can't learn on the fly like that with fiddle that is. Eventually I'm sure I will. With guitar I can fall in usually pretty quick.

Aug 22, 2019 - 5:32:43 PM

Fiddler

USA

3942 posts since 6/22/2007

Yes!! 

Because I have been playing long before digital recorders were invented, I learned either directly from the source or from an LP or 78 or from a variety of folks who were also learning. We cared nothing about "version." In fact, there was only ONE version - the one we were playing.  (A group of us would pool our money to buy an LP or order it from COUNTY or ROUNDER. The question we had was to buy a record or buy food/pay rent/buy beer.)

So, these days, when I play a tune such as _________, I may not play what most folks play. (Pick whatever tune you like.) I get disapproving looks and then sneers and then critical comments - "That NOT how that tune goes!" or "That's not anything like ______ plays." and more self-identified members of the OT Police Force crawl out of the cracks. I calmly try to explain that my versions contain elements of nearly every OT recording of the tune, but it is unique to me. I don't care what you think.  

One specific example is "Hog Trough Reel." I learned the tune from Faye Greene of Newark, Arkansas. It is very similar to McMichen's Reel. It is a regular AABB tune in G.  Seems like about 5 or 6 years ago, a tune of the same name was quite popular at Clifftop that is totally different tune. The OT Police banned me from the circle when what I played was not what everyone else did.

Another example is Hanged Man's Reel. I first learned it in D. I like it there, (There's a sound file on my HP from 20 years ago.) Want to get shunned??  Yup, play it in D.

I guess you can tell that I have little patience for OT Police!! 

So, got a different version of a tune? Great! I will pick it up on the fly and play along. Will I play it again? Probably not, but I may incorporate something we played into my version.

Aug 22, 2019 - 5:52:56 PM
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398 posts since 9/1/2010

If I don't know what they are suggesting the I try to learn. Some of my favorite tunes are ones I've learned at jams. You seriously can't beat having the audio and visual right there in front of you for learning the tune. Plus you can ask questions to clear up parts of the tune you didn't get on the fly.

Billy's comments were on point. Funny how a lot of people will just sit back and stare and listen. It feels so much better on both ends of that if you just try to play along. I feel it sort of falls into jam etiquette. Be polite and show interest in the tune they picked. I have friends that will reach for the guitar in those circumstances and I feel that is just as polite. It's hard for me to put down a fiddle for the guitar though. I loved the guitar for 20+ years, but we had to break-up when the fiddle came along.

Aug 22, 2019 - 6:06:51 PM
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gapbob

USA

612 posts since 4/20/2008

If it is a tune I already know, it is hard for me to separate them, though they may blend together.

I am good with just sitting and listening and enjoying a tune. I do not have to play all the time, moving my bow arm is not important to me, making music is. (Learning tunes is also ok).

Aug 26, 2019 - 5:19:21 AM
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7455 posts since 3/19/2009

I agree with what Bob just said.... Also, normally, I at least TRy to play along after a time or two through the tune, quietly if someone plays a version that is new to our group..It is not required though..
There is nothing more humiliating to me than to have Everyone just sit and listen..Granted, if I'm introducing a complex or 'off the wall' tune I'd expect some listening, but if after about three times through, if nobody is Trying...I just call it quits...

Aug 26, 2019 - 10:41:35 AM
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131 posts since 1/3/2019

Seems to happen more often than not unless it's an established jam. In that case there are usually core people playing the same versions of things. When visiting a jam I try to listen and fit in.

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