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Jun 23, 2019 - 3:28:29 PM
2170 posts since 10/1/2008

I usually keep Prime medium or orchestra gauge strings on my fiddles. I am setting off on a string hunt for my mid 50's Roth Guarneri. I tried orchestra weight Prims first. That string leaves my tone a little heavy on the D and G strings. I will likely try a set of light Prims with a Lisa E next. However I do like the chop "grunt" of the D and G strings. I was wondering about recommendations for strings to bring out the E and A tones volume and sweetness. I use metal core strings. My first idea … I did an internet search this AM for a silver plated A string and came up empty. Is there one out there? Before anyone asks the setup is fresh and first rate. Ideas people …… R/

Jun 23, 2019 - 3:50:43 PM

DougD

USA

9302 posts since 12/2/2007

Do you ever use Helicores? I don't really know what might bring out the A and E, but Superflexible is another string I've had good luck with. I mostly use Prim, but medium gauge.

Jun 23, 2019 - 4:06:14 PM

56 posts since 6/11/2019

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Originally posted by UsuallyPickin

I usually keep Prime medium or orchestra gauge strings on my fiddles. I am setting off on a string hunt for my mid 50's Roth Guarneri. I tried orchestra weight Prims first. That string leaves my tone a little heavy on the D and G strings. I will likely try a set of light Prims with a Lisa E next. However I do like the chop "grunt" of the D and G strings. I was wondering about recommendations for strings to bring out the E and A tones volume and sweetness. I use metal core strings. My first idea … I did an internet search this AM for a silver plated A string and came up empty. Is there one out there? Before anyone asks the setup is fresh and first rate. Ideas people …… R/


Well--

I changed strings today from Helicores to medium Prim G/D/A with Lisa E, and they perform well, though new strings always give you a boost.  I chop a lot in backup.

I will say that regarding an A, D'addario makes a titanium wrapped; I bought several to counter the short life of an aluminum wrapped A, but I have not tried them out yet.

I personally shy from orchestral strings--they seem to cause a lot of 'resonant frequency' bouncing in my long bowing, which is similar to the Tacoma Bridge flutter.  I'm sure it's just me, though.

Congrats on a new instrument.  It's kind of like a new fishing boat, or something.  Always fun to have explore something new!

Edited by - Flat_the_3rd_n7th on 06/23/2019 16:07:17

Jun 23, 2019 - 4:38:02 PM

4313 posts since 9/26/2008

Lisa E for sure. I did not know Prims came in a 'soft' set. I've only seen medium and orchestra.

Jun 23, 2019 - 7:48:02 PM

bluenote23

Canada

103 posts since 7/27/2016

If you want to be adventurous, you can check out Warchal strings. These are really classical violin strings but they have a Russian steel A which is quite interesting. No winding, it is twisted like a tight spring when you first get it and then stretches out leaving a spiral sort of texture to the playing surface of the string.

It is meant to complement a synthetic core set, usually Amber strings. The Amber E is also a similar design (the twisted spring) which is meant to make the steel string sweeter and less prone to whistle.

One thing about the Russian A is that it can last forever as there is no winding to break.

Best prices for these are direct from Warchal in Slovakia. Shipping is 6,90€ which is reasonable and they offer 50% off for your first set (though the Russian A is not part of an official set). The set with the Russian A is pretty reasonable (58€ last time I bought so well under $100 US) but the D and G are synthetic core.

Jun 24, 2019 - 4:16:36 AM

2170 posts since 10/1/2008

ChickenMan THe soft set comes in a blue ink package. Usually the only sets stocked are medium / green  and orchestra / red.

https://www.amazon.com/Prim-Violin-Strings-Chromesteel-Steel/dp/B003N0XP2O/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=Prim+violin+strings&qid=1561374806&s=gateway&sr=8-5

Jun 24, 2019 - 4:17:56 AM
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2170 posts since 10/1/2008

Scott .... I gave up on Helicore A strings long before they came out with the titanium wrapped A. I will give it a try. R/

Jun 24, 2019 - 4:19:19 AM

2170 posts since 10/1/2008

Ted, I have no experience with nor have ever seen Warchal strings marketed in the U.S.A. I will check out Amazon. THanks R/

Jun 24, 2019 - 10:52:58 AM

bluenote23

Canada

103 posts since 7/27/2016

Richard,
I was a little wary at first at buying direct from Eastern Europe and I got my first set of Warchal's on Ebay but really, the best way to buy is direct from the Warchal webstore.

Maybe they are too new a company but no one seems to sell their strings. My local shop, which has all the brands, does not carry Warchal.

Jun 24, 2019 - 12:12:48 PM

123 posts since 6/23/2007

Only A string i use anymore is Titanium HEAVY Helicore. Lasts a long time like Prim, but to me sounds better. YRMV
Compliments the Heavy E from Jargar very nicely or a Heavy Lisa.
I have a hard time finding this A though, usually get it from Just Strings...

Jun 24, 2019 - 12:33:34 PM
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DougD

USA

9302 posts since 12/2/2007

I think Southwest Strings sells Warchal, so you could look there. From the descriptions it looks like they're synthetic core, except maybe that "Russian" A string, so they might not suit you.
Have you thought about adjusting your bowing a little to get the sound you want? Small changes in technique can do a lot. "Changes in latitude, changes in attitude."

Edited by - DougD on 06/24/2019 12:41:23

Jun 24, 2019 - 2:23 PM
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1407 posts since 12/11/2008

I'm inclined to let my various fiddles be themselves. After all, I liked them enough to buy them. What I then do is try to adjust my touch to bring out what I think is best with the various strings or fiddles. Then I just hang back and let them make their mellifluous noises.

Jun 24, 2019 - 4:38:39 PM
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445 posts since 9/1/2010

Lenzner Goldbrakat E string....I use it on my main fiddle with Prims and it sings.

Jun 25, 2019 - 4:16:51 AM

2170 posts since 10/1/2008

Thanks people. The titanium A from Helicore is definately on the list Jasper . I will give the Lenzer Goldbrokat E a try also rosinhead. Thanks. I work on tone and bowing often and just completed a week of workshops that spent lesson time on different techniques , and how to achieve tonal variations. Thanks for the headsup on SouthWest Strings Doug D. I will check them out. I did fing Warchal on Amazon but as you point out they are a fiber core string. Thanks again... R/

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