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May 15, 2018 - 11:07:07 AM
652 posts since 7/26/2015

Here's an odd question. What exactly is the criteria for something to be considered a local tune?

Edited by - soppinthegravy on 05/15/2018 11:07:46

May 15, 2018 - 11:37:51 AM

78 posts since 1/27/2018

I don’t think there is a definitive answer to that question, but to me it would mean the tune is only known in a limited geographical area, like perhaps no bigger than a county. A regional tune would cover a larger geographical area, maybe like part of a state. I have a plethora of local tunes that have never left my home.

May 15, 2018 - 1:16:58 PM

652 posts since 7/26/2015

How about this one?
Lafayette
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LLp-D02qUW4
Does it have to be played widely in a county to qualify, or be nonexistent outside said county?
 
Also, could Arthur Smith's compositions be considered local tunes?
Stone's Rag is another tune composed by a Tennessee native (Oscar Stone).
 
 
quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Rosin

I don’t think there is a definitive answer to that question, but to me it would mean the tune is only known in a limited geographical area, like perhaps no bigger than a county. A regional tune would cover a larger geographical area, maybe like part of a state. I have a plethora of local tunes that have never left my home.


Edited by - soppinthegravy on 05/15/2018 13:19:54

May 15, 2018 - 1:36:29 PM

1397 posts since 10/22/2007

Two degrees not necessarily interrelated, but I will give examples.
1. Me taking the A part of Forked Dear and playing it with the B part of Dusty Miller. While not a faithful rendition but highly repeatable. Then getting other folks to play it. (this part may or may not be true)
2. National Endowment of the Arts fellow, Dwight "Red" Lamb's rendition of a tune that was his Father's favorite, entitled, That Good Tune in A. (There's at least a dozen of us that can & do play this tune)

There could be something to be said of what defines a fiddle tune, period, IMHO, could be if a tune is somehow "catchy" enough to get propagated. If cream rises to the top, it's surprising that the pooh doesn't always settle to the bottom. Case in point: this

 

May 15, 2018 - 3:02:55 PM

652 posts since 7/26/2015

Your thoughts on this album of "Old-Time Tunes from Hickman County, Tennessee"?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmIaueLdqi9DWrr5juj8pzmGGlHr2dSeM
How many of these can truly be considered "Hickman County tunes"?
This album? https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mUNEJT81OyxpxYtoPHG0DBIcmzF3IzePk
quote:
Originally posted by farmerjones

Two degrees not necessarily interrelated, but I will give examples.
1. Me taking the A part of Forked Dear and playing it with the B part of Dusty Miller. While not a faithful rendition but highly repeatable. Then getting other folks to play it. (this part may or may not be true)
2. National Endowment of the Arts fellow, Dwight "Red" Lamb's rendition of a tune that was his Father's favorite, entitled, That Good Tune in A. (There's at least a dozen of us that can & do play this tune)

There could be something to be said of what defines a fiddle tune, period, IMHO, could be if a tune is somehow "catchy" enough to get propagated. If cream rises to the top, it's surprising that the pooh doesn't always settle to the bottom. Case in point: this

 


Edited by - soppinthegravy on 05/15/2018 15:04:58

May 16, 2018 - 5:56:26 AM

1397 posts since 10/22/2007

Well, who's to say? (great links BTW)The one that would dispute it, might not even say it aloud.
And who's to say the boys didn't "make a tune out of it" just so they could get something more substantial for a 2:30 to 3:00 minute cut.

At one point in time or another I had a lot of fun with titles, by extension coming up with non-sense tunes. "You mean to tell me, you ain't never heard of The Cucumber Danced Around the Christmas Tree?" Worse? To have a pair of jokers, jabbing each other back and forth: "Naw, you play that like they do down in Comer's Creek. Here's the way it goes in Struther Holler." At this point one had better roll their pants up.

Something also tells me, the art of "making a tune out of it" could be a whole 'nother discussion. I've heard that term more than once from many old fiddlers.

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