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Jan 17, 2017 - 8:22:12 AM

Viper

USA

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Joined Jan 6, 2011

This year, I've decided to try to capture a little of the magic in Ward Jarvis's fiddling. I have the Field Recorders' Collective album and the Milliner-Koken book, but can anyone give me some more information about the man, his music and sources to seek out?

I understand David Brose recorded Jarvis and produced two albums with his music. I'm trying to track those down, but they seem to be pretty rare finds so far. Are those recordings available anywhere else? Are there other recordings I don't know about?

Any other sources out there I haven't considered, either historical or musical? 

Any other Ward Jarvis fans here?

FYI, I've targeted the following tunes to learn this year: Head of the Creek, Three Forks of Reedy, Pretty Little Indian, Cattle in the Cane, Tomahawk and Icy Mountain. I'm mostly using slowdown software, but seeking written sources where helpful. 

I look forward to the discussion. Cheers!

Jan 17, 2017 - 2:23:21 PM
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RobBob

USA

2486 posts
Joined Jun 26, 2007

i know David, let me see what he has to say about those recordings.

Jan 17, 2017 - 2:31:08 PM
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robinja

USA

1076 posts
Joined Jun 25, 2007

Hi, Brad. I think Icy Mountain is the only Ward Jarvis tune that I play, although I like several others that I have heard (too many tunes....)  I have the David Brose recording of Ward Jarvis' Icy Mountain that someone sent me.  I'd be happy to e-mail that to you if you want to send me a PM.  I don't know how to find the rest of them, though.

Judy

Jan 17, 2017 - 6:38:14 PM
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RobBob

USA

2486 posts
Joined Jun 26, 2007

David says he has fiddle and banjo material from Ward.  He is wiling to digitize, now to go sit with him at his house and actually get him to do it!  He lives 3 hours from me through the mountains.  Let's see if we can get this to work.

Jan 18, 2017 - 4:54:47 AM

Viper

USA

144 posts
Joined Jan 6, 2011

quote:
Originally posted by RobBob
 

David says he has fiddle and banjo material from Ward.  He is wiling to digitize, now to go sit with him at his house and actually get him to do it!  He lives 3 hours from me through the mountains.  Let's see if we can get this to work.


Hi RobBob, I just replied to your PM. Thank you so much for your offer and for reaching out to David! 

Judy, I have a version of Icy Mountain from Ward, but thank you for the offer. 

Edited by - Viper on 01/18/2017 04:56:23

Jan 18, 2017 - 10:25:34 AM
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robinja

USA

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Joined Jun 25, 2007

Brad - I should have mentioned that the Brose recording of Icy Mountain is much clearer than the FRC recordings, in my opinion.

Judy

Jan 19, 2017 - 6:16:39 AM

Viper

USA

144 posts
Joined Jan 6, 2011

In case anyone is interested, I've written a bit more about my "Year of Ward Jarvis" at my blog, The Glory-Beaming Banjo. I'm constantly amazed by how generous and helpful this community is. Thanks again Judy and RobBob. 

Jan 19, 2017 - 10:34:16 AM
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Nobel endeavor!

I'm curious. I play Icy Mountian, and was told by someone "No, that's called Natchee On The Hill". I have 2 contemporary versions of Natchee On The Hill - and it does sound just like Icy Mountain. But I can't find a source for Natchee On The Hill. Does anyone know where it came from?

I'm betting that Icy Mountain has been around longer - or at least its better known.

I've been meaning to learn Tomahawk too.

Jan 19, 2017 - 11:29:28 AM
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Viper

USA

144 posts
Joined Jan 6, 2011

quote:
Originally posted by tonyelder
 

Nobel endeavor!

I'm curious. I play Icy Mountian, and was told by someone "No, that's called Natchee On The Hill". I have 2 contemporary versions of Natchee On The Hill - and it does sound just like Icy Mountain. But I can't find a source for Natchee On The Hill. Does anyone know where it came from?

I'm betting that Icy Mountain has been around longer - or at least its better known.

I've been meaning to learn Tomahawk too.


Good question. I have a recording of "Natchee On the Hill" by Emery Bailey. I don't have access to it right now to compare, but it's an interesting question. I believe Bailey and Jarvis were contemporaries and lived in similar areas of West Virginia. Bailey's family moved up to Ohio too. I met his daughter a few years ago, when they attended the jam I used to frequent. 

Jan 20, 2017 - 7:29:30 AM

Viper

USA

144 posts
Joined Jan 6, 2011

Does anyone have insight on what tunings Ward Jarvis used? 

Jan 22, 2017 - 9:32:22 AM
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RobBob

USA

2486 posts
Joined Jun 26, 2007

Some things can be figured out by yourself with careful listening.  Noted strings will sound different than open strings.  Are they getting notes that are almost impossible in standard tuning.  The quest is part of the journey. ;-)

Jan 23, 2017 - 5:21:26 AM

Viper

USA

144 posts
Joined Jan 6, 2011

Ha! That's a cagey response. I suppose I'll have a lot more listening to do soon. 

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