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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Can any one play "Big John Mcneil"


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Daner - Posted - 11/06/2008:  14:09:56


I'm trying to learn this song...and hoping someone can play It slow for me...My grandfather played It all the time...and I no longer have the cassette with him playing.

Thanks for any help or tips on this tune

Daner From Rockwood Ontario

DougD - Posted - 11/06/2008:  14:25:06


Here's a source for the music, and a list of recordings: thesession.org/tunes/display/1002

Daner - Posted - 11/06/2008:  14:34:41


Doug...That looks great and thanks a ton...Do I have to sign In On that site?

Daner From Rockwood Ontario

peerke112 - Posted - 11/06/2008:  15:01:42


Daner

Sheet: 62.131.235.156/bbbcontent/back...cneil.pdf
MIDI:62.131.235.156/bbbcontent/back...cneil.mid


Acoustic style MIDI''s? bluegrassmidisound.eu

Daner - Posted - 11/06/2008:  15:07:55


thanks peerke...But I'm looking for just the fiddle tune without the back up

Daner From Rockwood Ontario

Daner - Posted - 11/06/2008:  15:18:04


Doug I cant get the song to play...I downloaded It bt It says widows canot open this file

I looked to see If anyone here on FH put the song In the media...and nothing In there on Big John Mcneil....come on guys/Gals open up that case and lets hear you do Big John

Daner From Rockwood Ontario

DougD - Posted - 11/06/2008:  15:18:32


Daner, no you don't have to sign in to download the music files. I think sometimes there's a MIDI file, but I don't see it for this tune.
There's another version and more info about the tune here: ibiblio.org/fiddlers/BI_BILE.htm

If you're not familiar with abc notation, you just highlight the strange looking letters and paste them into a converter like the one at concertina.net, and you get a very nice looking piece of sheet music and sometimes a MIDI. Follow the instructions at the top of he page at The Fiddler's Companion. I don't think you have to delete the extra line spaces with the version at the Session.

DougD - Posted - 11/06/2008:  15:24:24


Daner, I can't seem to copy the abc notation file from the Session. Use the one from the Fiddler's Companion, and you can play a MIDI too. If you're using Windows Media Player version 10 or later you can slow it down too. I need to learn this one too - I know the B part, but I've always been hazy on the A part.

Daner - Posted - 11/06/2008:  15:30:49


Remember I cant read music...I play all my tunes by ear

Daner From Rockwood Ontario

Daner - Posted - 11/06/2008:  15:38:32


I'm not having any luck....I have to ride out and bring In some horses...I will be back In the early a.m....I love that tune...I have It In my head..

Daner From Rockwood Ontario

OTJunky - Posted - 11/06/2008:  15:40:38


Here's my favorite performance of it...

youtube.com/watch?v=qJxAM_f9U4w

Very straightforward, flawless, perfect tempo, and a close up of the left hand and bowing.

It's the second tune she plays - starting about 1/2 way through the clip.

--OTJ
"I can barely fiddle on four strings. Why would I want five?"

DougD - Posted - 11/07/2008:  01:22:46


Daner, lets try this again. Follow this link to the page at the Fiddler's Companion: ibiblio.org/fiddlers/BI_BILE.htm
Find Big John McNeil on that page, and copy the strange looking stuff that begins with "X:1" to the end. Thats the abc notation.
Then follow the instructions at the top of that page: Follow the link to concertina.net and paste the text into the box. You also have to delete the extra blank lines so its single spaced. Then click "Submit."
You should see a low resolution image of the music, which you can ignore, but above it should be "[MIDI Music File]". Click that, and the tune should play in your MIDI player, sounding like a piano. If you're using Windows Media Player version 10 or later you can change the speed of the tune as you learn it.
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Daner - Posted - 11/07/2008:  05:45:10


Doug, I was able to do cut and paste...I removed the extra spaces as well...but when I submit,It says page canot be displayed...maybe something with my server Is not right.

I would be great If someone could jump In here and just play the tune...Its not In the media archives...I'm sure there more than you and myself that would like to learn this tune...Once again thanks for your help

Daner From Rockwood Ontario

DougD - Posted - 11/07/2008:  07:02:40


Thats disappointing. I suspect the format isn't quite right somehow. It has to start with "X:1" and go all the way to "CB,|" You don't actually need the final "]" And when you take out the spaces you have to be careful not to run lines together. It would be a good way to learn the tune.
The video OTJunky posted is good too, but of course its up to speed. I'm sure some folks here play this tune and can help out. If not maybe I can record a slow version later today.


Edited by - DougD on 11/07/2008 14:45:35

fiddlevixen5 - Posted - 11/07/2008:  07:06:32


quote:
Originally posted by OTJunky

Here's my favorite performance of it...

youtube.com/watch?v=qJxAM_f9U4w

Very straightforward, flawless, perfect tempo, and a close up of the left hand and bowing.

It's the second tune she plays - starting about 1/2 way through the clip.

--OTJ
"I can barely fiddle on four strings. Why would I want five?"







Thats my friend Erica Brown. She lived in Maine last I knew. She is really good...Her Guitar player Lincoln is AMAZING!!!

ericabrownonline.com/




Ellie

Daner - Posted - 11/07/2008:  13:03:16


Yes Eric Brown Is one great Fiddler...I will keep working on this Big John Mcneil along with the other tune I'm learning Johnny Cope...I dont see that In our archives as well...when I get a bit better at my bowing, I will play It On there...Tiime to round up the horses before dark

Daner


Daner From Rockwood Ontario

peerke112 - Posted - 11/07/2008:  14:28:25


Hi Daner...Just uploaded a very slow (20 bpm) version:
fiddlehangout.com/myhangout/mu...p?id=376#

Hope it's usefull

Acoustic style MIDI''s? bluegrassmidisound.eu

renny - Posted - 12/21/2009:  04:19:36


Hello Daner,

How are you getting on with ,, Big John Mcneil,, ? i am trying the song myself now...

greetings

Renny
The Netherlands

Mountainbanjo - Posted - 12/21/2009:  05:20:22


I play this on banjo. Great tune, and its on just about every Canadian oldtime CD I have. The tune is on Dan Levenson's Festival Tunes CD/Book, which can be downloaded from Mel Bay. Dan plays it very slowly. I can never find the files on the Mel Bay site when I want them, but I know they are there.

Daner - Posted - 12/21/2009:  05:48:55


quote:
Originally posted by renny

Hello Daner,

How are you getting on with ,, Big John Mcneil,, ? i am trying the song myself now...

greetings

Renny
The Netherlands



Hi Renny...I got as far as playing along with Peerkes Slow version.....But that was last year now
How time flys.....I havent been playing the fiddle much at all....Time to get back at It soon
Merry Christmas All

renny - Posted - 12/21/2009:  08:49:01


Thats pretty good ! Peerkes version is quik enough for now...

Merry cristmas as well ! we have got snow at the moment.... so maybe a white christmas...

Daner - Posted - 12/21/2009:  12:35:54


Thanks for the reminder To get the case open and blow the dust off that Fiddle of mine........I have been playing for 5 hrs straight now.......Cheers

renny - Posted - 12/21/2009:  14:30:54


haha thats great , much fun !

check this one..

youtube.com/watch?v=NGtckNUY7b8


Edited by - renny on 12/23/2009 00:34:42

worldfiddler - Posted - 12/23/2009:  12:08:29


Daner - here's the audio I played slowly :

worldfiddlemusic.com/guest/big...e1850.mp3

Jim

Jessi - Posted - 12/23/2009:  13:33:09


quote:
Originally posted by renny

haha thats great , much fun !

check this one..

youtube.com/watch?v=NGtckNUY7b8


YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!! This is my favorite version. I want to play just like that!!

Daner - Posted - 12/23/2009:  14:01:55


quote:
Originally posted by worldfiddler

Daner - here's the audio I played slowly :

worldfiddlemusic.com/guest/big...e1850.mp3

Jim



Thanks Jim ,That's a Different version...but sounds great

Can yo you play that at full speed?

Merry Christmas

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