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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Bass fiddle bow holder


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Flat_the_3rd_n7th - Posted - 02/12/2021:  12:22:24


My buddy in our band sometimes plays with a bow for effect.  Nowhere to stow the bow when time to go back to plucking.  I want to get him a gift of something like this:

 



stringemporium.com/upright-bas...uiver.htm



It looks like they all tie onto the tailpiece, though.  A fiddler would not put something on his tailpiece to weight it down, right?  I believe it would adversely affect the tone.  What's your opinion?  Wouldn't it be the same effect on a bass fiddle?  Any experience with this?  Thanks.

farmerjones - Posted - 02/12/2021:  16:44:11


I don't think this guy cares:
youtu.be/p-3eM-FIGy4

jimbopicks - Posted - 02/12/2021:  17:41:03


This is the kind of thing that double bass players discuss(argue) about ad nauseam. Yes, theoretically adding weight to the tailpiece changes the sound of a bass, such that some players don't use a quiver (bow holder). In practice the bass is a much bigger instrument than a violin, and the strings are much heavier, so the effect is likely much smaller.

I've played my bass both with and without a quiver and bow hanging from the tailpiece, and cannot discern a difference.

It's the kind of thing classical musicians obsess over, if this is a bluegrass band the most of the time the bass is just thumping along, then don't worry about it.

Flat_the_3rd_n7th - Posted - 02/12/2021:  19:43:47


quote:

Originally posted by farmerjones

I don't think this guy cares:

youtu.be/p-3eM-FIGy4






That's a generation (or two) downstream from me, but I'll be dogged if I wouldn't love to (be able to!) play such as that.  Banjer needs him a Richard Petty hat, though.

Flat_the_3rd_n7th - Posted - 02/12/2021:  19:47:56


quote:

Originally posted by jimbopicks

This is the kind of thing that double bass players discuss(argue) about ad nauseam. Yes, theoretically adding weight to the tailpiece changes the sound of a bass, such that some players don't use a quiver (bow holder). In practice the bass is a much bigger instrument than a violin, and the strings are much heavier, so the effect is likely much smaller.



I've played my bass both with and without a quiver and bow hanging from the tailpiece, and cannot discern a difference.



It's the kind of thing classical musicians obsess over, if this is a bluegrass band the most of the time the bass is just thumping along, then don't worry about it.






I'm sure you're right, I appreciate that comment.  Bass picking on a stage, a-dancing and a-slappin it probably doesn't care much about pure tone.  I suppose instrument accessories are a pretty personal thing, though.  I might just ask him what he thinks, first.

The Violin Beautiful - Posted - 02/12/2021:  23:19:53


Bassists who play a lot of music that requires them to switch from arco to pizzicato frequently often use bow quivers to make things easy, especially if they’re playing on stage and don’t have a good place to rest the bow.

Yes, extra mass added to the tailpiece can be a dampener, but many players feel it’s with the trade-off.

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