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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: It feeds on itself...it is a curse :)


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TuneWeaver - Posted - 02/07/2021:  15:46:35


The more you have time, the more you look for creative ways to spend that time.. The more you have time to go through music books, the more tunes you learn.. The more you practice reading sheet music, the easier tunes are to learn.. The more tunes you learn, the more you have to add to the tune list..The more you add to the tune list, the more tunes you 'gotta' practice and try to Remember..... I telz ya.. It is a curse.. ( but I love every moment of it..smiley)



 

pete_fiddle - Posted - 02/08/2021:  01:11:47


i don't keep lists though. Anything that i manage to learn either sticks, or it doesn't. And adds to the snowball, or drops off. Still seems that things still grow exponentially though (Albeit over a loooong time in my case )....Especially Edit: fiddle related music stuff for some inexplicable reason??...;0)


Edited by - pete_fiddle on 02/08/2021 01:14:50

groundhogpeggy - Posted - 02/08/2021:  04:44:46


I learn 'em, I forget 'em, I go back to 'em, I forget about 'em...it's and endless cycle. Basically, I've played a bunch of tunes but I can't say I really know any of 'em...lol.

banjopaolo - Posted - 02/08/2021:  10:11:58


I forget even the tunes that I write myself!

pete_fiddle - Posted - 02/08/2021:  11:54:29


i think i can keep maybe 15 or 20 tunes up to scratch and maybe 4 or 5 of those will be a bit "Iffy".....But with some BS, some backing and a song or two that's enough for 3 half hour sets ...Which in my book equals a "Gig"...laugh

farmerjones - Posted - 02/08/2021:  14:11:21


It's funny how each's comfort zone is different.
I'd really rather hide behind a band. Do fills and breaks, and never have to remember anything.
Lately I suck at the tunes I know, even. This recording stuff is murder to the ego. Did you know adding notes is just as bad, if not worse than leaving notes out? These lazy notes on the end of phrases. Every which way bowing. Fooey! The bad habits are so ingrained a metronome won't help it. If you still don't understand my problem, think about playing a square or contra dance in ragtime. See? That's why they call it rag or raggedy. It's loose. It's the opposite of a hornpipe. I think I may have stumbled across a solution in my ravings. Thanks Lee!

TuneWeaver - Posted - 02/08/2021:  14:24:50


quote:

Originally posted by farmerjones

It's funny how each's comfort zone is different.

I'd really rather hide behind a band. Do fills and breaks, and never have to remember anything.

Lately I suck at the tunes I know, even. This recording stuff is murder to the ego. Did you know adding notes is just as bad, if not worse than leaving notes out? These lazy notes on the end of phrases. Every which way bowing. Fooey! The bad habits are so ingrained a metronome won't help it. If you still don't understand my problem, think about playing a square or contra dance in ragtime. See? That's why they call it rag or raggedy. It's loose. It's the opposite of a hornpipe. I think I may have stumbled across a solution in my ravings. Thanks Lee!






I try, Steve.  Heaven knows I try  ..   I just listened to a couple of your youtube videos... Not bad fer a farmer!!!



 


Edited by - TuneWeaver on 02/08/2021 14:27:25

sbhikes2 - Posted - 02/08/2021:  17:27:32


"The bad habits are so ingrained a metronome won't help it."

That's how I feel. I'm okay with metronome, but the other bad (or not even bad, just default) habits don't care about the metronome!

farmerjones - Posted - 02/08/2021:  18:44:18


quote:

Originally posted by sbhikes2

"The bad habits are so ingrained a metronome won't help it."



That's how I feel. I'm okay with metronome, but the other bad (or not even bad, just default) habits don't care about the metronome!






Now, if the end of the 4 bar phrase ends with a downbow. Then the next phrase begins with a downbow, how do you get the bow back to the 'starting point?' Answer typically, is an upbow, but it ain't right. Everybody does it somehow. Even big contest fiddlers, but it's a superfluous note.  One could probably get away from it if one plays and dances simultaneously.  My other proposed solution would be to play more hornpipes. Hornpipes have to be square or they won't come out right. Hornpipes, if you drop (or add) one note it crashes. 

pete_fiddle - Posted - 02/09/2021:  00:42:37


My attitude towards my metronome has altered lately. i now use it to indicate which notes i will clip, ghost, or modify in any other way to achieve my personal view of how a whole phrase should sound rhythmically.



 My days of trying to fit every note perfectly into it's relentless clicks and dings are thankfully gone. And the metronome and i are starting to come to some sort of agreement about every couple of bars or so.



 I have trouble with understanding the whole Hornpipe thing, i think the definition of a Hornpipe depends on which part of the world it comes from and which era a player is trying to convey. For example if i play "Huckleberry Hornpipe" as an Irish Hornpipe it sounds ok but quite comical IMO. Then i have just learned some English hornpipes from the 18th/19th century with 3/2 time signatures... And even 6/8 time sigs!

pete_fiddle - Posted - 02/09/2021:  02:33:29


Woops.... Thread drift.....Apologies Lee

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